Red and Burnning after Injection

[JJDADOG]

I have been off and on Gear now for about 3 years and I have never had this before..after injection the area is all warm and very red... the first shot was Monday left delt and second was Friday left tri...it is only happening on my left arm no where else.... so i know its not the gear....Please advise...oh yeah the gear is very think almost like Pure maple syrup...

Thanks

 

[617ricky]

With thick gear you should heat it up 1st. Get creative - put the whole syringe in a pot of very hot water for 10 mins, blow dry it, figure something out - but that will thin the oil out right before inject. The thickness could be the problem.

 

[HOTROCKS]

All kind of things can cause injection site sorness.
The amount of Ba, how fast you pushed it, if the gear was not warm enough, how deep , not deep enough, if you wiggled the needle while shooting .ect..ect…
You get the picture.
If you do a search you will most likely find thousands of post on this subject.
It has been beat to death .
Every other day the same question pops up.
Someone with more knowledge of the subject needs to write up a sticky .
Soreness is part of sticking something in through your skin and into the muscle .
It is gonna hurt sometimes.
Just make sure you keep everything nice and sterile so as to rule out infection.
I’ve been doing IM ( mostly test-e) for twenty years and it seems like every third shot or so I get some slight swelling and sometime redness.
I just don’t worry about it . I shoot it in the front thigh on non-leg days.

Take a couple Advil, put a warm pack on it , drink plenty of fluids and come back and see me in seven days.
If you went to the Doc that would be what he would say .

Oh Yes ! Pay the receptionist $150 on the way out .

 

[HOTROCKS]

put the whole syringe in a pot of very hot water for 10 mins

NO!
Come on now !
All you have to do is carry it around aginst your body for a few min to get it to 98.6 ? Hold it tightly in your hand.
You could hit it with the dryer, but you may get it to hot.
You could stick it in a baggie to keep it clean and put it in your arm pit .
That would bring it to 98.6.
but, just hold it tightly in your had for five min will do the trick .

 

[hellraiser27]

I just turn on hot water and fill sink about an inch high. Place vial in water. The glass will heat much faster than a plastic syringe. Its just easier to do it this way.

Hmmm, so you have been on and off gear for about 3 years and this has never happened and your asking this question like you never heard of it?
Throw your gear away and go buy some creatine.

 

[JJDADOG]

I just turn on hot water and fill sink about an inch high. Place vial in water. The glass will heat much faster than a plastic syringe. Its just easier to do it this way.

Hmmm, so you have been on and off gear for about 3 years and this has never happened and your asking this question like you never heard of it?
Throw your gear away and go buy some creatine.

Creatine is for kids....I have heard of heatting gear up but I have never gotten red and warm spots so that is why i was asking....

 

[HOTROCKS]

Creatine is for kids …..Far from it!
Your misinformed !
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During short maximal bouts of exercise such as weight training or sprinting,
stored adenosine triphosphate (ATP) is the dominant energy source.
However, stored ATP is depleted rapidly. To give energy, ATP loses a phosphate
and becomes adenosine diphosphate (ADP). At this point, the ADP
must be converted back to ATP to derive energy from this energy producing
system.
When ATP is depleted, it can be recharged by creatine, in the form of creatine
phosphate. That is, the CP donates a phosphate to the ADP making it
ATP again. An increased pool of CP means faster and greater recharging of
ATP and, therefore, more work can be performed for a short duration, such
as sprinting, weight lifting and other explosive anaerobic endeavors.
Other eff ects of creatine may be increases in protein synthesis and increased
cell hydration, though researchers are still elucidating the mechanisms.

 

[HOTROCKS]

Another

Effect of creatine and beta-alanine supplementation on performance and endocrine responses in strength/power athletes.
Hoffman J, Ratamess N, Kang J, Mangine G, Faigenbaum A, Stout J.

Dept. of Health and Exercise Science, The College of New Jersey, Ewing, NJ 08628, USA.

The effects of creatine and creatine plus beta-alanine on strength, power, body composition, and endocrine changes were examined during a 10-wk resistance training program in collegiate football players. Thirty-three male subjects were randomly assigned to either a placebo (P), creatine (C), or creatine plus beta-alanine (CA) group. During each testing session subjects were assessed for strength (maximum bench press and squat), power (Wingate anaerobic power test, 20-jump test), and body composition. Resting blood samples were analyzed for total testosterone, cortisol, growth hormone, IGF-1, and sex hormone binding globulin. Changes in lean body mass and percent body fat were greater (P < 0.05) in CA compared to C or P. Significantly greater strength improvements were seen in CA and C compared to P. Resting testosterone concentrations were elevated in C, however, no other significant endocrine changes were noted. Results of this study demonstrate the efficacy of creatine and creatine plus beta-alanine on strength performance. Creatine plus beta-alanine supplementation appeared to have the greatest effect on lean tissue accruement and body fat composition.

 

[JJDADOG]

I Just eat red meat and a lot of it

 

[HOTROCKS]

Bro !
You can't eat enought to get what you need from what I've read.

 

[617ricky]

put the whole syringe in a pot of very hot water for 10 mins

NO!
Come on now !

There are probably better ways to do it, but what would be so bad about this method? Alot of people reuse syringes/needles and sterilize them by putting them in a pot of boiling water. They can take it.

 

[SacToSD]

Creatine! I remember when that stuff came out in like 95', and I had to have my cousin come over and have a sit down talk w/ my mom so that I could get it. That's cool. I didn't know anyone still took that stuff! jk

 

[HOTROCKS]

There are probably better ways to do it, but what would be so bad about this method? Alot of people reuse syringes/needles and sterilize them by putting them in a pot of boiling water. They can take it.

It is the "VERY HOT " part this I objected to .

I don't see glass syringes in the hospitals anymore , so I'm know sure what they would be boiling .
The damn things are to cheep.

 

[jrmuscle]

ill say this about creatine

bro creatine is one of the most important amino acids the body needs to recover along with glutamine and all branch chain so for kids no for bodybuilders and athletes.

 

[HOTROCKS]

Creatine! I remember when that stuff came out in like 95', and I had to have my cousin come over and have a sit down talk w/ my mom so that I could get it. That's cool. I didn't know anyone still took that stuff! jk

Have you read any studies that convinced you in not taking it ?
Why have you stopped ?
I have given you one above as to why take it .
So ! Show me something that opposes taking it.
I really would like to know !
if there is I'll be the first to dump it out .

 

[JJDADOG]

Ok so what is the best creatine to use...maybe i will start useing again

 

[SacToSD]

Have you read any studies that convinced you in not taking it ?
Why have you stopped ?
I have given you one above as to why take it .
So ! Show me something that opposes taking it.
I really would like to know !
if there is I'll be the first to dump it out .

I was joking about creatine, bro. I think it works as advertised, but I don't take it, currently. I took it years ago and was having a bit of nostalgia... I've read anecdotal reports about how creatine inflates muscles w/ water and what not, but for me, I don't have extra cash to throw around on supps so I just don't take them. Whey, fish oil, and vegetables are about the only "supplements" I use.

 

[sharksden69]

best creatine to use.. depends on what you like to use (brand wise) I use NO SHOTGUN BEFORE WORKOUT then I prefer CELLMASS.. AFTER WORKOUT.. so I mix brands but its what works best for me.. but your back on cycle so guess that means your either staying on all thee time or you want use anything during PCT...

 

[GoneForFuckingEver8]

All vertebrates and some invertebrates use creatine, by way of conversion to and from phosphocreatine in conjunction with the enzyme creatine kinase. The presence of this energy buffer system keeps the ATP/ADP ratio high at subcellular places where ATP is needed, which ensures that the free energy of ATP remains high and minimizes the loss of adenosine nucleotides, which would cause cellular dysfunction. Such high-energy phosphate buffers in the form of phosphocreatine or phosphoarginine are known as phosphagens. In addition, due to the presence of subcompartmentalized creatine kinase isoforms at specific sites of the cell, the phosphocreatin kinase system also acts as an intracellular energy transport system from those places where ATP is generated (mitochondria and glycolysis) to those places where energy is needed and used, e.g., at the myofibrils for muscle contraction, at the sarcoplasmic reticulum (SR) for calcium pumping, and at the sites of many more biological processes that depend on ATP

 

[RINO]

Alot of people reuse syringes/needles and sterilize them by putting them in a pot of boiling water.

Holy shit I hope not.