Safest AS?

bigw8 · Jun 7, 2006

What is the safest AS to use? One that will not cause gyno or testicular shrinkage?

Koevoet · Jun 7, 2006

Safe is a relative term. All AAS are going to interfere with the HPTA axis, which over time will lead to hypogonadism.

Anavar probably has the fewest sides, but as a C-17 oral is liver toxic.

bigw8 · Jun 7, 2006

what about winstrol?

Koevoet · Jun 7, 2006

Yes, Primo and Winstrol are also both 'mild' steriods. Winstrol has been know to cause joint pain.

bigw8 · Jun 7, 2006

no gyno or ball shrinkage anything like that?

will someone gain weight on winstrol or is it strictly for a cutter?

Koevoet said:
Yes, Primo and Winstrol are also both 'mild' steriods. Winstrol has been know to cause joint pain.

Lenny · Jun 7, 2006

I agree, winny is painful on the joints if you exceed the promper amount of time to be on it, but i would only recommend it as a cutter and nothing other than that.

bigw8 · Jun 7, 2006

what is the proper amount of time?

why is it so hard on the joints? Just drying them out?

Lenny said:
I agree, winny is painful on the joints if you exceed the promper amount of time to be on it, but i would only recommend it as a cutter and nothing other than that.

terryd5150 · Jun 13, 2006

Primobolan is ,by far, the "safest" steroid. It has minimal affect on HPTA, is not 17-aa in any form, and has the mildest side effects.

It is also one of the best steroids to use for "keepable" gains. Gains made from this drug are as close to permanent as you are going to get, even with little to no PCT.

The major drawback to this drug is $$$. It costs a ton to run this drug in the proper dosages/cycle times. It is also a DHT derivative, so it will accelerate hair loss in those that are already genetically predisposed.

If you have access to this drug I can tell you from personal experience that a cycle of 750-1000mg test/wk and 600 mg/Primo will almost work miracles. For those not wanting heavy androgen use I have seen great gains from this one with little or no test as well.

Hope that helps.

bigw8 · Jun 13, 2006

thanks man

just looking for some answers for now

Lenny · Jun 14, 2006

I think Primo, Var, and Winny are the safest, but Winny tends to dry my joints out.

Dave_19 · Jun 14, 2006

Lenny said:
I think Primo, Var, and Winny are the safest, but Winny tends to dry my joints out.

Deca can also be added to that list.

bigw8 · Jun 14, 2006

What about progestin with deca?

Dave_19 said:
Deca can also be added to that list.

BigMatt · Jun 14, 2006

I would say Testosterone Proprionate.
If theres a problem you can go off within days so its good.

For first cycle i would run 500mg 12 weeks Test Prop,if you dont mind Pins.

Dave_19 · Jun 15, 2006

BigMatt said:
I would say Testosterone Proprionate.
If theres a problem you can go off within days so its good.

For first cycle i would run 500mg 12 weeks Test Prop,if you dont mind Pins.

Test prop or testosterone in general is far from being the safest AAS. It is pretty safe and my test of choice, but not the safest AAS.

bigw8 · Jun 15, 2006

Thanks for clearing that up

Dave_19 said:
Test prop or testosterone in general is far from being the safest AAS. It is pretty safe and my test of choice, but not the safest AAS.

auto26 · Sep 15, 2006

Stick with short esters/half lives - If you start developing some problems you can't handle you can get them out of your system in days - not weeks

I'm gonna lump all the orals in here as well as they have short half life.