Sex drive

[John_Rambo]

I have been cruising for 3 weeks, coming off a low test, medium tren, high npp 10 week run, and my sex drive completely died for the first time ever about 4-5 weeks into my blast (note that I had to use letro @ 1.5mg ED for ~40 days mid-cycle to combat gyno, and also nolvadex a bit later, which i'm tapering off right now).

It seems to be really slowly coming back 3 weeks into my cruise but am still very far from performing 100% (very weak erections, and sometimes I can't even get it up).

I'm currently on 125test, 100tren, and 12.5mg aromasin EOD (will switch to 12.5mg E3D soon)

I also jumped on cialis at 25mg E3D about a month ago and i'm still on it; it helps but not that much.

I really wish I could put a finger on the culprit here, but I can't since for me tren is known to lower sex drive, and letro is also known for this, and i'm unsure about NPP since it was my first go with it.

I thought about getting bloodwork to see if everything is within range, the fact that it is complicated to get it done here is what's holding me from doing it.

Having a low sex drive is fucking horrible when you have a GF, needs no further explanations.

Any advices?

 

[benzoj]

Get some bloods done and take some proviron or hcg asap. HCG for the quick fix.

 

[DOGMA]

Always have the blood test's done and check liver values as well and remember to ask for the GGT,s.

I would say get some proviron, it 's worked well for me.

 

[John_Rambo]

Get some bloods done and take some proviron or hcg asap. HCG for the quick fix.

I thought about getting proviron eventually but it's kind of expensive.

I have HCG on hand, I didn't know it helped in that sense?

 

[ManoftheWorld]

i'd personally drop the aromasin all to together since i'd imagine your e is too low.. if you used letro to combat your gyno on blast of low test I imagine your e was also too low on cycle to cause your issues since the gyno was mostly caused from prolactin issues from the npp/tren... your prolactin levels could still be too high so caber would be good option as well since your tren cruise could be keeping them elevated... you could drop the tren as well for now but will still take a while for levels to drop so caber would prob be the quicker solution...

hcg could also help with aromatase levels to get your e back up to par while the aromasin is clearing.... you definitely have some options

 

[Hymlock]

I like NPP, but I quit using it because of erection problems, it's the worst gear for me, also gives me acne problems..

 

[Baxo]

blast again =)

 

[The Big MC]

elevated prolactin did that to me bro. You thought about caber? Good sources on here and its pretty cheap.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

Get off any AI.

Get on caber/prami.

 

[t.c.jones]

Get some bloods done and take some proviron or hcg asap. HCG for the quick fix.

I agree. Test proviron and HCG is the opposite of what they give sex offenders.

 

[t.c.jones]

I thought about getting proviron eventually but it's kind of expensive.

I have HCG on hand, I didn't know it helped in that sense?

There are sources on here that sell Proviron cheap

 

[John_Rambo]

Always have the blood test's done and check liver values as well and remember to ask for the GGT,s.

I would say get some proviron, it 's worked well for me.

What's GGT's?

i'd personally drop the aromasin all to together since i'd imagine your e is too low.. if you used letro to combat your gyno on blast of low test I imagine your e was also too low on cycle to cause your issues since the gyno was mostly caused from prolactin issues from the npp/tren... your prolactin levels could still be too high so caber would be good option as well since your tren cruise could be keeping them elevated... you could drop the tren as well for now but will still take a while for levels to drop so caber would prob be the quicker solution...

hcg could also help with aromatase levels to get your e back up to par while the aromasin is clearing.... you definitely have some options

I forgot to mention something.

I actually wanted to go high test (600mg..), med tren, high NPP.

600mg test is high for me because I aromatise pretty badly. So I went 600mg for the first two weeks (with tren and tbol, I then swapped the tbol for NPP at week 4) and my nips got sensitive right at the beginning of week 3.

That's why I thought that it was the test that gave me gyno. I immediatly lowered my test to 180mg (and later on 125mg) and raised my asin from 6.25mg ED to 25mg ED for 5-6 days but that didn't cut it so I went on letro.

Still, even on letro and some toremifene my lump wouldn't reduce. It's only when my cycle ended and that I got up nolvadex at the end of the cycle that it started reducing.

I wish I had caber on hand so I could give it a try while I reduce my AI dose (I don't know if i'll drop it completely because i'm very prone to estrogenic sides, I might just go to 6.25mg EOD or E3D?)

I'm scared the HCG will drive my estro too high if I drop/reduce my AI at the same time.

elevated prolactin did that to me bro. You thought about caber? Good sources on here and its pretty cheap.

There is no caber in Canada....if you guys know a legit source that would ship it, let me know via PM...

Get off any AI.

Get on caber/prami.

I'll lower my AI drastically and get my hand on some caber...

There are sources on here that sell Proviron cheap

Cheap doesn't sound too good in my head, I'd rather use reputable canadian labs.

 

[matt1164]

I just lived this nightmare.

I was cruising and was feeling great- sex drive was perfect, then I blasted tren and that shit fucked my house up. I couldn't maintain an erection with 3 viagras.

I went to get bloodwork and estrogen and prolactin were NORMAL even after going up to 200mgs tren a day with no caber/prami. all i did was run .5 adex every other day. so go figure.

It took almost 2 months but I am finally feeling ok. I did 250 hcg 2x a week for a couple of weeks. I lowered my test prop dose to 80mgs a week, I even skipped a week or two of shots. absolutely NO tren. I just ran low dose test for 2 months by itself.

after talking to Emeric, I started humanofort yesterday and my erections are better already. this is not a placebo effect. even my girl noticed my noctural erections were as hard as a fuckin rock.

You're are shut down and may need some time to recover. you should get bloodwork to get an idea of whats going on. I wouldn't start any other drugs other than typical pct type stuff right now. why take caber if you have no idea what your prolactin is? and proviron is just a short term fix and will not fix things. You can't run proviron forever.

 

[ridge11]

There is no caber in Canada....if you guys know a legit source that would ship it, let me know via PM...



Macuna Pruriens works well as an alternative.

 

[DOGMA]

In a nutshell GGT results will tell you if you truly have liver damage not like ALT's ect. I was just saying when you get tested ask for these as well as it will be an indicater of actual possible liver damage.

Second paragraph please.


The GGT test is sometimes used to help detect liver disease and bile duct obstructions. It is usually ordered in conjunction with or as follow up to other liver tests such as ALT, AST, ALP, and bilirubin.

Increased levels of GGT levels may indicate in general that the liver is being damaged but does not specifically point to a condition that may be causing the injury.

While elevated GGT levels may be caused by liver disease, they may also be caused by alcohol consumption and/or other conditions, such as congestive heart failure.

GGT can be used to screen for chronic alcohol abuse (it will be elevated in about 75% of chronic drinkers). Sometimes it may be used to monitor for alcohol use and/or abuse in people who are receiving treatment for alcoholism or alcoholic hepatitis.

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When is it ordered?
A GGT test may be ordered when someone has an elevated ALP level. An ALP test may be order alone or as part of a routine liver panel to screen for liver damage even if no symptoms are present. If results of the ALP test are high but other tests that are part of the liver panel, such as AST and ALT are not increased, then a GGT test may be ordered to help determine whether the source of the high ALP is a bone disorder or liver disease.

GGT may be ordered along with or as follow up to other liver function tests when a person has signs or symptoms that suggest liver disease. Some signs and symptoms of liver injury include:

 

[DOGMA]

Lil more. This could be better on another thread but you asked.


•Liver Enzymes

AST (aspartate aminotransferase), which was previously called SGOT, can also be elevated in heart and muscle diseases and is not liver specific.
The normal range of AST is 0 to 45 U/L

ALT (alanine aminotransferase), which was previously called SGPT, is more specific for liver damage.
The normal range of ALT is 0 to 45 U/L

ALP (alkaline phosphatase) is elevated in many types of liver disease, but also in non-liver related diseases.
The normal range of ALP is 30 to 120 U/L

GGT (gamma glutamyl transpeptidase) is often elevated in those who use alcohol or other liver-toxic substances to excess.
The normal range of GGT is 0-45 U/L.

 

[gnosis]

Guys I'm reading these posts and most are suggesting physiological points.

It could be psychological too right. I know you can have a happy relationship, hot girl etc, but could it be something else?

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[John_Rambo]

I just lived this nightmare.

I was cruising and was feeling great- sex drive was perfect, then I blasted tren and that shit fucked my house up. I couldn't maintain an erection with 3 viagras.

I went to get bloodwork and estrogen and prolactin were NORMAL even after going up to 200mgs tren a day with no caber/prami. all i did was run .5 adex every other day. so go figure.

It took almost 2 months but I am finally feeling ok. I did 250 hcg 2x a week for a couple of weeks. I lowered my test prop dose to 80mgs a week, I even skipped a week or two of shots. absolutely NO tren. I just ran low dose test for 2 months by itself.

after talking to Emeric, I started humanofort yesterday and my erections are better already. this is not a placebo effect. even my girl noticed my noctural erections were as hard as a fuckin rock.

You're are shut down and may need some time to recover. you should get bloodwork to get an idea of whats going on. I wouldn't start any other drugs other than typical pct type stuff right now. why take caber if you have no idea what your prolactin is? and proviron is just a short term fix and will not fix things. You can't run proviron forever.

Exactly, I do not want a quick fix I want to find the root of this.

I did not particularly enjoy reading your post mate...

Let me know how it goes for you.

Guys I'm reading these posts and most are suggesting physiological points.

It could be psychological too right. I know you can have a happy relationship, hot girl etc, but could it be something else?

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99% sure it's physiological.

 

[John_Rambo]

Thanks DOGMA.

 

[John_Rambo]

There is no caber in Canada....if you guys know a legit source that would ship it, let me know via PM...



Macuna Pruriens works well as an alternative.

Thanks I will look into that.