short ester or long?

[cckf2004]

should i go with short esters or long esters for a beginner?thanks

 

[osiris]

if you are a beginniner, i am of the mind that i would pick one and try it. Some people love long esters, i personally like shorter esters. They hit faster, harder and i getgreat results. Mileage may vary on my opinion. Try it for yourself and see.

 

[Lymelight]

Whats an ester??

 

[juicin]

Ester length isnt necessarily begginer vs. intermediate. I'd say its more dependant on cycle length and/or personal preferance. Short esters are better used in cycles under 8 weeks IMO. The drug will kick in quicker, and leave quicker, as well.

But i've done long cycles with short esters as well. Mostly because i'm impatient to wait for it to kick in and leave.

 

[Max2]

For a beginner I'd recommend using the normal long esters for these reasons:
1. Easier to get a stable (elevated) hormone level and keep it there.
2. Beginners aren't used to pinning so the less you stick yourself the better.

My $.02 worth.
Peace.

 

[Merl991]

I usually use both. Long cycles, with short esters for bridging. As max said, newbies should stick with long ester. Make it easy as possible while you learn how your body reacts to test.

 

[ShortStop]

i would use a longer ester less pinning test E or C for a first cycle IMO

 

[mopchopper]

here is another point of view....short ester for a first timer may be better...reason being is that if any problems arise, the gear can clear in about 4 days(if using propionate) vs about 2 weeks(cypionate or enanthate)....never know your first time what you might run into

 

[Lysphen]

here is another point of view....short ester for a first timer may be better...reason being is that if any problems arise, the gear can clear in about 4 days(if using propionate) vs about 2 weeks(cypionate or enanthate)....never know your first time what you might run into

good advice


i think you should also use a single kind of testosterone and not a blend such as susta / omna

 

[purelifting]

You have pro's and cons for both long and short.


short(prop)

Pros:
kicks in fast.
You can dose down or cut is off if you can't take sides.
Takes about 2 weeks for prop to be out of your system.
Leaves your body as fast.

Cons:
Every other day pinning is a pain.
alittle more pricey than a long ester
(cant think of anything else?)

Long(cyp or enth)

pros
Once a week pinning(twice a week is better)
Cheaper than a short ester
over all easier with a busy life style

cons
Less test than a short ester
more of a bloat than a short ester
takes up to 4 weeks to feel the FULL effect.
takes 2 weeks to get it out of your system
can be detected up to 3 months.

 

[lackeydog2]

Test E or C
Dirtier gains but more overall weight gains

 

[Aizen Sosuke]

I wish I had ignored the typical first cycle of test e at 500mg advice that you get everywhere and had gone with prop instead for my first go. On my second cycle I used prop at 150mg/eod and loved it. I will never go back to long esters except for boldenone if I ever decide to use it because the short ester on boldenone is nothing to mess around with. So if you are a sadistic bastard like me who enjoys pain and don't mind pining at least everyother day then propionate at 100mg/eod for 8 weeks is a great first cycle.

 

[LILTOM9090]

longer esters id say for a beginner