So what all do you have to do to the peptide powder to be able to use it?

[BoJangles333]

Like from start to finish(from powder form you receive to the substance you inject). And what supplies would I need? I would be adding CJC and GHRP-6, and possibly LR3IGF-1(thought about MGF or Peg MGF, but seems the conclusion on those was that they are crap). Would the LR3IGF-1 be a good addition to the CJC and GHRP-6? I am on the fence about adding peptides to my Test/Dbol cycle because of all the prep work, and then the need to inject 2-3 peptides up to 3x a day EACH, which makes it like 6-9 pins, and since you do some bilateral(one dose split in 1/2 and pinned in one side of the body and then the other side of the body), this doubles the pins, so you are looking at 12-18 pins a day, plus my AAS pins.

I am going for mass. Want to add as much mass/muscle as I can. Not all that worried about adding a little fat. So if there is a better peptide stack than the one I listed above, please let me know.

Or if maybe something like insulin would be a better option on AAS, let me know some details about that option. Maybe do a combo of insulin for the awesome effects it has combined with GHRP-6 so I can eat like a horse. I would think insulin combined with Test/Dbol would be insane, and add in GHRP-6 so you are eating like crazy would be great for the insulin and the AAS.

Feel free to answer my questions and add in any recommendations you may have about what I've said, something I missed, etc. Thanks!

 

[jm425]

Stay away from insulin for now since it sounds like your new to all this minus the AAS. You'll thank me later. As for reconning cjc and ghrp, all you need is bac water.

 

[BoJangles333]

Stay away from insulin for now since it sounds like your new to all this minus the AAS. You'll thank me later. As for reconning cjc and ghrp, all you need is bac water.

That's it? How hard is it to measure out the right amounts of powder and bac water? No filtering? So once in liquid form you just draw it into the syringe just like that? I thought I read somewhere you had to draw something else in the syringe first, THEN draw the peptide in.

 

[VTliftVT]

That's it? How hard is it to measure out the right amounts of powder and bac water? No filtering? So once in liquid form you just draw it into the syringe just like that? I thought I read somewhere you had to draw something else in the syringe first, THEN draw the peptide in.

yes, thats it...it comes in vials with the powder pre-measured. you get bac water..draw the amount you need to get the desired dosing per ml....inject slowly into the powder...swirl....place in refrigerator. draw and inject as needed.

read: http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...tution-easiest-way-understand.html#post501296

 

[BoJangles333]

yes, thats it...it comes in vials with the powder pre-measured. you get bac water..draw the amount you need to get the desired dosing per ml....inject slowly into the powder...swirl....place in refrigerator. draw and inject as needed.

So what would be the best combo of peptides to take on my cycle of Test-e/dbol? I think CJC/GRHP6 are a must, but what about LR3IGF1? And what dosages would you recommend for the peptides(amount and how many injections of each per day, timing, what types of injection(IM, etc), etc)

 

[Downtowncb84]

Well the IGF-1 LR3 is more of a long run type peptide, you wont notice the muscle building effects for quite a few months, since it take a while for the new muscle fibers to mature. THe pumps are quite amazing though.

I would just stick with the CJC and GHRP6, its a great combo for treating injurys and preventing them too. Combined with AAS the effects are substantially magnified.

 

[BoJangles333]

So there is a VERY trustworthy website that just released a new product on Tues. It is a GHRP-6 & CJC-1295 Combo: 1.25 : 1 ratio. So 225mcg would give me 125mcg GHRP6 & 100mcg CJC. I could do that dose 3x a day.

Is it ok to have it combined like that into on injection? If so, that would make it much easier as I would only need to do 3 pins a day.

So what type of injection do you do with these peptides? Subc, IM, ??? Also, when I reconstitute it, what size dose should I aim for? Like a 10cc dose, 10iu dose, etc? And what type of syringes do I need?

Should I just run it as long as I can afford it?

 

[Downtowncb84]

the doses will be with slin pins 29gauge 1/2 inch, sub q injects, and the doses can be easily measured in units. You can get by with 2 injects a day, 3 would be optimal. I like to do the shots in my ab area, just pinch the skin/fat poke and push, easy peazy.

Yes they can be combined. Be careful with the ghrp6 you can pass out if you dont eat when the hunger hits.

 

[BoJangles333]

So what kind of results will I see adding this to me AAS cycle, and how long does it take to see the results?

 

[Downtowncb84]

its case by case dependant ( different for everyone ), but it seems to step the gear up a notch, and promotes lean gains. If you dont notice any changes in your workouts, or body comp after 6 weeks then it may not be working for you. I swell ( full body pump ) from ghrp 6 alone, and my performance improves quickly.

all i can say is try loggin your progress so that you may track any changes that may be from the peps.

 

[kbtoy]

Yes they can be combined. Be careful with the ghrp6 you can pass out if you dont eat when the hunger hits.

Bullshit. You don't have to eat. You are actually to avoid eating for at least a half hour after injection otherwise you'll blunt the effects, well carbs mostly will but anyways. Why can't anyone do their own research?

"Oh by the way can you come mix the stuff up for me then do my injections also?"

Christ their is so much info on here, this is exactly what we need another what should i take, and how do I mix it thread. I'm all for helping someone out but not if they won't help themselves.

 

[jm425]

Bullshit. You don't have to eat. You are actually to avoid eating for at least a half hour after injection otherwise you'll blunt the effects, well carbs mostly will but anyways. Why can't anyone do their own research?

"Oh by the way can you come mix the stuff up for me then do my injections also?"

Christ their is so much info on here, this is exactly what we need another what should i take, and how do I mix it thread. I'm all for helping someone out but not if they won't help themselves.

Carbs do no blunt the effects of hgh. That is a MYTH. Ask Dat.

 

[kbtoy]

Carbs do no blunt the effects of hgh. That is a MYTH. Ask Dat.

Why is it printed in his sticky then? He's the on that said that fats and carbs blunt gh release. Now if he changed his mind all of a sudden then my fault. However I;m just going with the info that's printed. And basically he's the one I go for my info. Since I think he's more knowledgeable and able to read the studies better than me.

Dose w/o food

Administration should ideally be done on either an empty stomach or with only protein in the stomach. Fats & carbs blunt GH release. So administer the peptides and wait about 20 minutes (no more then 30 but no less then 15 minutes) to eat. AT that point the GH pulse has about hit the peak and you can eat what you want.

 

[jm425]

Why is it printed in his sticky then? He's the on that said that fats and carbs blunt gh release. Now if he changed his mind all of a sudden then my fault. However I;m just going with the info that's printed. And basically he's the one I go for my info. Since I think he's more knowledgeable and able to read the studies better than me.

When I last talked to him about this, he told me that carbs do not blunt the effects of gh. And yes, he is more knowledgeable than anyone on this board when it comes to this.

 

[kbtoy]

When I last talked to him about this, he told me that carbs do not blunt the effects of gh. And yes, he is more knowledgeable than anyone on this board when it comes to this.

and there's this post also. I know info changes but I can't see DatbTrue saying carbs blunt the gh release to some extent and not going back and changing his info or updating it. From what I gather fats blunt the release more so but in my research I want to blunt the release as little as possible. Not eating afterwards bothers some people, not me so much. So whatever, this is the info i got.

You should always try to admininster the CJC/GHRP first and wait a bit before eating.

The reason?

Unlike synthetic GH we are depending on the body to make GH for us. Once GH has been made and is circulating great...but we need to get it made first.

The studies show that circulating fatty acids can really inhibit the production of GHRH and carbs to a lesser extent.

The studies show that circulating fatty acids only blunt but do not inhibit the action of GHRPs. Carbs blunt but to a lesser extent.

It can be argued soundly that it doesn't matter because the CJC (GHRH) is not being made it is being injected. All it needs to do is act on the pituitary...so even in the presence of food it should still function.

However some of GHRP-6s benefit is inducing GHRH release from the hypothalamus. In addition food may blunt some of the pituitary action of GHRH.

So it is best to wait a bit.

How long?

Imagine or refer back to the release curves. GH release happens pretty quickly with either peptide or both together. Within the first 5 minutes the pulse of GH starts to rapidly rise and does so until it peaks at about the 30 minute mark. So I would think that you should always wait at least 10 minutes post administration to eat and if you have the time up to 30 minutes.

In the morning and PWO I administer CJC/GHRP-6 on an empty stomach and wait for 30 minutes. Then my insulin shot (if that happens to be part of my protocol at the time) and I eat.

However pre-bed I usually have plenty of fats in my system. I often (when not dieting) have peanut butter or some combo of fats/protein. I always wait at least 30 minutes after eating my last snack before administering the CJC/GHRP and going to bed.

I don't think the peanut butter in my system really effected my night-time GH release. I've been doing it this way for months and I think it works fine. No night-time hunger and I don't think it interferes with the GH release.

All this to say ...just give yourself a little time between administration & eating. If it is convienent to go 30 minutes do it...if not don't go that long.

Part of the beauty of CJC-1295 is that it stays around. So it is always going to continually act on the pituitary to release GH no matter that you are sometimes eating...

ERRATUM (1/20/2009): Clarification, fats including peanut butter should be avoided well BEFORE administration of peptides. I do not eat fats within a few hours of administration.
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