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Supplementation question...

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Supplementation question...
Just curious what you guys use for supplements (not AS).

The good, the bad, and the ugly........


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03-12-2002 06:29 AM



mikelittoris
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msm for the joints,vitamin c



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03-12-2002 06:46 AM



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Glucosamine/Chondroitin combo & MSM for the squeaky joints, garlic for heart and cholesterol, ginko for the mind, ginseng-overall body tonic, Multi-vitamin to make sure I get my daily's, creatine for cell volumization, glutamine to help with nitrogen retention, papaya enzyme & fiber (I used to associate it with old people, but it really makes a difference when I'm eating a lot of protein - aids in digestion), Isopure (vanilla only...other flavors of the stuff don't really appeal to me) and sometimes an ECA stack for energy and thermogenesis. Even when I'm not on, I still pop a zillion pills a day! LOL!


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03-12-2002 11:12 AM



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Multivitamin/mineral_standard upkeep
garlic_heart/cardiovascular
vit c_Immune boost
B complex injection_ makes me a hungry hippo, and I luv the stingy alcohol in it.
Glucosamine/chondroitin/msm_Joint health/pain relief
folic acid_with b excellent heart protection
milk thistle_Liver protection
alpha lipoic acid_liver cleaner
kelp_thyroid aid
digestive enzymes_help break it all down better
grape seed extract_antioxidant
asprin_heart & bp regulator
DHEA_keep levels up like a teenager, and I like the big ol pimples it gives me.
echinacea_immune boost
calcium+D_bones
whey protein(myogenix)_feed those mucles,aids in liver health
Shew, I think that's it!
Here's to your health!
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03-12-2002 11:30 AM



Ermantroudt
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Re: Supplementation question...
Originally posted by SizeMatters:
"Just curious what you guys use for supplements (not AS)."

1. Multi-Vitamin (taken 2x daily): Cover the basics
2. Whey: I need more protein in my diet
3. Weight Gainer: Scaled-down serving size: Used for recovery and weight gain
3. L-Glutamine: Recovery
4. Creatine: Strength and weight gain
5. Extra Vitamin: A, B, C, E: Keeping the basics "extra" covered
6. Tribulus: I feel better when I use it, more aggressive, stronger and more able to perform.

Ermantroudt


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Alright, alright..... some of you guys look like you are making a list of the ENTIRE WALGREENS VITAMIN DEPT.!!! Jesus!! LMAO!!

Can we go one step further.... and post the reasons for each??
(other than whey, creatine, and glucosamine... those are obvious)

Later.


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03-13-2002 07:31 AM



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Here we go

1. Multi-Vitamin: a daily "foundation" supplement
2. Creatine: (just started taking during this cycle)
3. ALA: Liver & heart protectant
4. Milk thistle: Liver protectant
5. Potassium: Prevent cramps
6. MSM: Joints!
7. ECA: Thermo-genic and workout ergo-genic
8. T-3: Fat-loss
9. Syntherol: Big Muscles!

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03-13-2002 07:59 AM



FRKNHUGE
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k
vit c
synthergine- liv/kidney protectant
syntheselen- its my multi, lol
cran ext- obvious reasons, look at my orals lol
b5- pimple redux
green tea- herbal cleanser
z-mass - to grow
flax oil- idk every1 takes that, lol
dbol- its a vitamin, lol
oh and glutamine
and maddd amts of protein


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03-13-2002 08:21 AM



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OOPS-

frkn's post reminded me

10. flax oil
11. synthergine (will begin right before I start with orals)
12. Triple threat protein (doesn't everyone supplement with protein powder?)

xcelbeyond


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1)Multi-Vit. x 2
2)Flax oil x 2 Tbl.
3)Glutamine x 20g.
4)Whey x ~80g.

I'll try different supplements from time to time through out the year, (like eca stack or creatine). But these are my staples. Don't forget the most important thing of all, LOTS of high quality WHOLE food.
SS



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03-13-2002 08:29 PM



FRKNHUGE
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good point stan
for all the beginners here, the most important thing is to try to wear your teeth out, lol
seriously tho, if i had the choice to eat meat or drink my pro, i would eat the meat, but that being said, i would be eating allllll day, (even tho i already do that, lol)
i try not to count protein in gms, just drink it every chance u get and use abt 60+gm per shake
so if u hit 5 thats 300 supplemental gms, not to bad

just do the following, LIFT-EAT-GROW, its basic and easy to follow
lol

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03-13-2002 08:41 PM



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DAILY:
13 scoops protein powder
5 scoops maltodextrin powder
5 tbs flax oil
multi-vitiman/mineral
milk thistle
Creatine (off cycle)
glutamine



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03-13-2002 08:56 PM



Paul Bunyan
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I think MikeS should consider adding a fiber supplement to his diet. LOL. PB



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03-13-2002 10:31 PM



Phil Hernon
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OK
SINCE I AM DRUG FREE FOR 4 YEARS NOW, I HAVE HAD TO USE SUPPLEMENTS!!!!!! HERE WE GO, AND I KNOW THAT I WOULDNT BE 255 AND HARD RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THIS STUFF.

1. CREATINE
2. MULTI VITAMIN, MINERAL,
3.ECDY-KITO (GREAT PRODUCT, RAISES FREE TESTOSTERONE LEVELS!!)
4. OMEGA -3 FISH OILS. (NEED THESE IF YOU TAKE FLAX SEED OIL TO PREVENT THE CONVERSION TO ARACADONIC ACID FROM FLAX. IT IS BETTER TO USE OLIVE OIL IN MY OPINION)
5. ANDRO-275
6. HMB
7. SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS(ALL)
8. 1 ASPIRIN A DAY
9. SMALL GLASS RED WINE PER DAY
10.TRIBESTAN
11.FAT BURNERS
12. HUMANOFORT


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HEY PHIL-
Thanks for the info on Flax-new one on me. Can you expand a little on that? You say Olive oil is better than Flax? Ive also heard
Saflower oil is as good too-do you know about this? thanks Phil,
for your input.



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SURE
ILL TRY, BUT MY DAD IS THE CANCER SPECIALIST, I SHOULD HAVE HIM POST BECAUSE I JUST REPEAT WHAT HE TELLS ME!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA FLAX SEED OIL CAN CONVERT TO ARACHADONIC ACID (BECAUSE OF THE LINOLEIC ACID CONTENT)WHICH TURNS INTO PROSTAGLANDINS. THESE PROSTAGLANDINS CAUSE INFLAMATION IN OUR TISSUE, AND INFLAMATION IS IN ESSENCE THE BEGINNING STAGES OF A CANCEROUS GROWTH. IF YOU INGEST FISH OILS,OMEGA -3 TO BE PRECISE, YOU CAN COUNTER ACT THIS CONVERSION OF THE FLAX OIL. OLIVE OIL , COLD PRESSED, EXTRA VIRGIN WILL NEVER CONVERT TO ARACHADONIC ACID, IT IS A MONOUNSATURATED OIL, AND A GREAT SOURCE OF ENERGY ON A LOW CARB DIET. THERE IS A GREAT SITE OUT THERE WITH A BRILLIANT MAN WHO THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY SAYS IS THE LEADER IN THIS FIELD TODAY. HE IS DOCTOR BERRY SEARS, AUTHOR OF THE ZONE DIET. I THINK HIS SITE IS DRSEARS.COM, IF ITS NOT, ILL CHECK, OR YOU CAN TYPE IN KEY WORD BERRY SEARS.


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Hey Phil
Could you tell me more about ecdy-kito? I've never heard of it?



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YES
IT IS ECDYSTERON, WHICH HELPS NORMALIZE ADRENAL OUTPUT, INCREASE 17 KITOSTEROID PRODUCTION, INCREASE SEXUAL FUNCTION, LOWER TRIGLYCERIDES.



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MikeS
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Thanks for the info Phil. Get your Dad on here too! lol
 

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Question for Phil Hernon

FLAX SEED OIL CAN CONVERT TO ARACHADONIC ACID (BECAUSE OF THE LINOLEIC ACID CONTENT)WHICH TURNS INTO PROSTAGLANDINS. THESE PROSTAGLANDINS CAUSE INFLAMATION IN OUR TISSUE, AND INFLAMATION IS IN ESSENCE THE BEGINNING STAGES OF A CANCEROUS GROWTH. IF YOU INGEST FISH OILS,OMEGA -3 TO BE PRECISE, YOU CAN COUNTER ACT THIS CONVERSION OF THE FLAX OIL. OLIVE OIL , COLD PRESSED, EXTRA VIRGIN WILL NEVER CONVERT TO ARACHADONIC ACID, IT IS A MONOUNSATURATED OIL, AND A GREAT SOURCE OF ENERGY ON A LOW CARB DIET. THERE IS A GREAT SITE OUT THERE WITH A BRILLIANT MAN WHO THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY SAYS IS THE LEADER IN THIS FIELD TODAY. HE IS DOCTOR BERRY SEARS, AUTHOR OF THE ZONE DIET. I THINK HIS SITE IS DRSEARS.COM, IF ITS NOT, ILL CHECK, OR YOU CAN TYPE IN KEY WORD BERRY SEARS
Phil,
I know you posted this almost 3 years ago, but I have a question maybe you could answer. I just finished reading Enter the Zone, Mastering the Zone, & A Week in the Zone. And I have now just started reading The Omega Rx Zone. Dr. Sears demonstrates that Aracodonic Acid indirectly causes inflammation in muscle. If we remove the AA from the equation by using Omega-3s, we eliminate the inflammation, right? But as bodybuilders, whether novice or pro, isn't muscle inflammation critical to proper muscular hypertropy?

Thanks in advance.
-EJ
 

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Phil, I had no idea your father was a cancer specialist ( the big guns in the medical community.). I hope this is an acceptable question . . . What was you Dad's oppinion when you were at the top of your game? Did he ever comment on your use of AAS?

Thanks,
Boo.
 

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