Synthetine

[Steve123]

Had a quick question. Through my readings on this supplement, I'm inferring, perhaps incorrectly, that the best method of administration is to use it in conjuction with Insulin. That does make sense but do any of you guys just use it with WXM or Dex and get the same results from it?

Sorry if this is a dumb question but I dont plan on using Insulin under any circumstances and just want to make sure it's worth it to purchase Synthetine and then get the slin spike naturally.

Thanks

 

[Phidias]

I dont plan on using Insulin under any circumstances and just want to make sure it's worth it to purchase Synthetine

Most definitely!!

Consider injectable L-Carnitine for what it's primarily used for... its ability to transport the fatty acids released in your bloodstream through diet, training and fat "mobilizers" like caffeine or ephedrine, into the mitochondrias where they will be burnt as an energy source.

That slin + synthetine combo may be a little too technical for most... give it a try when you're ready to use insulin, but otherwise just taking it as a GREAT fat loss tool will be highly beneficial in ur quest of leaness.

Synthetine also improves your heart health, and has been proven to increase cells' sensitivity to androgens... two other good reasons to be on it.

 

[Steve123]

Most definitely!!

Consider injectable L-Carnitine for what it's primarily used for... its ability to transport the fatty acids released in your bloodstream through diet, training and fat "mobilizers" like caffeine or ephedrine, into the mitochondrias where they will be burnt as an energy source.

That slin + synthetine combo may be a little too technical for most... give it a try when you're ready to use insulin, but otherwise just taking it as a GREAT fat loss tool will be highly beneficial in ur quest of leaness.

Synthetine also improves your heart health, and has been proven to increase cells' sensitivity to androgens... two other good reasons to be on it.

Thanks man. But does it work well with Wxy Maize or Dex? Is that effective?

 

[myosin]

Lot's of info here...

I'll keep it short b/c there's a lot of info on the site here... but I want to address the insulin question.

I do kind of agree with Phid, but at the same time, the insulin/carntine "protocol" is actually somewhat "simple" (please note, I'm not lessening the seriousness of insulin administration though).

The usual protocol that Dat has laid out is 1 unit of regular with the carnitine, once a day.

As far your question about the waxy maize, etc... the consensus is that Dat's protocol works better.

 

[Steve123]

I'll keep it short b/c there's a lot of info on the site here... but I want to address the insulin question.

I do kind of agree with Phid, but at the same time, the insulin/carntine "protocol" is actually somewhat "simple" (please note, I'm not lessening the seriousness of insulin administration though).

The usual protocol that Dat has laid out is 1 unit of regular with the carnitine, once a day.

As far your question about the waxy maize, etc... the consensus is that Dat's protocol works better.

Yeah, and that's pretty much what I took away as well. I guess what I was asking is that if you don't use the Insulin, is it still worth it?

 

[Phidias]

Thanks man. But does it work well with Wxy Maize or Dex? Is that effective?

It will work since any carb source will cause a spike in your endogenous slin, but you obviously won't get the same results you would with a shot of a few iu's of humalog... to obtain a similar rise in slin concentration you'd have to consume A LOT of waxy maize or dextrose (and it's not even sure the induced slin production would be comparable), which could be very counter-productive as it could easily lead to body fat storage.

 

[Big A]

I guess what I was asking is that if you don't use the Insulin, is it still worth it?

Simple answer - Most definetely!

 

[Phidias]

Simple answer - Most definetely!

LOL!

Short and straight to the point, you know when Big A's replying... Businessmen have no time to lose!

 

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[Steve123]

LOL!

Short and straight to the point, you know when Big A's replying... Businessmen have no time to lose!

That's why I love this board!! Simple answers that even I can understand!

Guys, What are the implications of shooting a couple of Iu's of INsulin every day? Does that cause Pancreatic issues or are those more prevelant at higher doses? I would love to use the insulin and avoid eating 400 calories of sugar each time. I just don't know much about Insulin and, as we would probably all agree, it's a compound that doesn't suffer ignorance very well.

Thanks

 

[Phidias]

Guys, What are the implications of shooting a couple of Iu's of INsulin every day? Does that cause Pancreatic issues or are those more prevelant at higher doses?

NO WAY u become diabetic using a couple iu's slin ed... actually some say it will even lower the stress caused on ur pancreas by repeatedly consuming high amounts of carbs.

Since in response to high sugar intake your pancreas will have to secrete a lot of slin, a few experts suggest it can be very stressful over time and cause diabetes in the long run... taking exogenous slin with meals rich in carbs would help prevent that as ur pancreas won't release as much of his own slin.

Elevated doses and prolonged use of GH will probably put you at MUCH GREATER risk to develop diabetes... keep in mind GH raises ur blood glucose level...

 

[Steve123]

NO WAY u become diabetic using a couple iu's slin ed... actually some say it will even lower the stress caused on ur pancreas by repeatedly consuming high amounts of carbs.

Since in response to high sugar intake your pancreas will have to secrete a lot of slin, a few experts suggest it can be very stressful over time and cause diabetes in the long run... taking exogenous slin with meals rich in carbs would help prevent that as ur pancreas won't release as much of his own slin.

Elevated doses and prolonged use of GH will probably put you at MUCH GREATER risk to develop diabetes... keep in mind GH raises ur blood glucose level...

Makes sense. I've always been scared to death of the stuff to be honest. I've always been affraid that I would make myself become an insulin dependant diabetic.

What are the precautions though. Just have a sugary shake with 100grams of simple carbs nearby just in case you go hypo?