You can get lean taking deca ,test and Dbol with no clen , T3 , DNP or anything else.
You can grow and get fat taking test , tren , mast and winstrol along with T3 and clen
It ultimately boils down to your diet and training
You can get absolutely shredded with very little drugs at all, just enough to prevent any muscle wasting if your diet and training are situated properly
t3 sucks... very catabolic
dnp is way better. but you seem pretty noobie so idk if i would recommend
been working out for 12 years and at least 7 years on and off juice ...but i'm a powerlifter so i was usually on bulking compounds
right now i'm 228 lbs at 5.7 and around 17% body fat and thought maybe it's time for a real cut ,that's why i considered tren this time.
DNP is not available in egypt i guess
been working out for 12 years and at least 7 years on and off juice ...but i'm a powerlifter so i was usually on bulking compounds
right now i'm 228 lbs at 5.7 and around 17% body fat and thought maybe it's time for a real cut ,that's why i considered tren this time.
DNP is not available in egypt i guess
been asking cuz i heard alot of people can't lose weight on tren,
and read a couple studies about tren causing lower t3 levels (in animals),
but people use it for cutting all the time ...so i assumed they use t3 with it to get fat lose results
I did tren only cycles and would only put on maybe 5 lbs in 12 weeks, but I'd trim my bodyfat way down. I would be eating more too, a lot more as my hunger would be up. Waist measurement once went down 2 inches in the 12 weeks while I gained about 5 lbs. Recomp drug.
Imo even if it makes T3 go down (let's assume for now that it does), it's not enough of a downshift to NEED T3 with it.
thought about that too ...no one got hypothyroidism from tren
Yep! I was only taking tren too, no testosterone or any other steroid. It was the pellets I was using, so I know it was good. The effect is immense. I was hot and sweating all day long, couldn't keep a shirt dry hardly. I increased calories too because of my hunger. I cant remember how much, but it was probably not more than maybe 500 to 1000 calories a day over my maintenance from before the cycle. Before the cycle I was off. That was when we all cycled on and off steroids. I lost a bit under 2 inches off my waist and trimmed up nicely. My weight went up about 5 lbs too. Looked a lot bigger though. Veins out etc. After I went off I think I lost that 5 lbs fairly fast but remained nice and lean. Want to say I lost about another 5 lbs in the next few weeks too, so down 10 after going clean. In the end after going clean I weighed about 5 lbs less than before the cycle but my waist was down almost 2 inches. The 10 lbs must have been water. Lost a significant amount of fat and replaced with muscle. With me, an inch lost in the waist is usually about 7 lbs or so. Going by that I would have lost about 15 lbs of fat and put on 10 lbs of muscle.so your waist measurement went down without even being in a caloric deficit state ,right ? you were'nt using t3 or hgh or peptides ? if that's the case then that answers my question ...no need for t3.
Yep! I was only taking tren too, no testosterone or any other steroid. It was the pellets I was using, so I know it was good. The effect is immense. I was hot and sweating all day long, couldn't keep a shirt dry hardly. I increased calories too because of my hunger. I cant remember how much, but it was probably not more than maybe 500 to 1000 calories a day over my maintenance from before the cycle. Before the cycle I was off. That was when we all cycled on and off steroids. I lost a bit under 2 inches off my waist and trimmed up nicely. My weight went up about 5 lbs too. Looked a lot bigger though. Veins out etc. After I went off I think I lost that 5 lbs fairly fast but remained nice and lean. Want to say I lost about another 5 lbs in the next few weeks too, so down 10 after going clean. In the end after going clean I weighed about 5 lbs less than before the cycle but my waist was down almost 2 inches. The 10 lbs must have been water. Lost a significant amount of fat and replaced with muscle. With me, an inch lost in the waist is usually about 7 lbs or so. Going by that I would have lost about 15 lbs of fat and put on 10 lbs of muscle.
Strength went up a lot too by the way. A lot.