Taking Steroids with an enlarged prostate?

[big_byrd52]

Hey guys, my training partner and a really good friend of mine just found out he has an enlarged prostate.... the trouble is, he is only 21! he hasnt done anything crazy with cycles or anything either, the doc said its probably something he has always had. he has only been doin 500mg TE for last 10-12 weeks and nothing for 2 years, and it was about the same dose 2 years ago. My question is what can he take with problem and be safe? anything? maybe something that doesnt convert to DHT?

He is super strong and close to setting all time bench records, but he want to at least stay big nd lean if he can do it safely. any input?

 

[bulldog21]

I would have him do some research into maybe taking Avodart or Proscar while using those. Both of these help with BPH (benign (sp?) prostate hyperplasia) That might help keep his prostate from getting any larger....

 

[1badboy]

ephedra?

Any chance he's taking a supp with ephedrine / ephedra / ma hung in it? That stuff can cause my prostate to swell. Saw palmetto does help me feel better a little faster. Just a thought...

ADD: bulldog reminded me that I did try finasteride (generic proscar) and it helps very fast but have to get dosage just right or it totally kills my libido.

 

[Jarconis]

avodart taken at 2mg has shown to block dht 100%.

 

[homonunculus]

Sam,

Was his PSA elevated?...

-R

 

[big_byrd52]

He said the doc said something was elevated but not sure what. Said PSA might be it?

Doc said its very unusual for someone his age to have a prostate enlarged as much as it is. Said it could turn into cancer down the road at some point, and while not for certian, if he kept taking test it would just make it surface sooner. the doc was cool about the AS issue and said it was there before he started probably.

 

[balplayer]

randy,
i tried to pm you. your box is full.

 

[callgolf]

My dad is on HRT, 150 mgs a week of test cyp, along with Gh. He had an enlarged prostate, but was really pushing the HRT with his doc. So his doctor suggested that he start using Avodart 6 months before beginning his HRT run. This has made all of the difference for him, so have your bro take some time and let the Finasteride or Dutasteride work in his system and decrease the overall size of the prostate, or at least stop the propensity for growth. Then he can begin using AAS, this should help. By the way, the avodart makes your hair really thick, my dad has normal older guy hair, not really thick. Then after using the avodart he has a hell of a mane, looks really good.

 

[BrooklynBB]

PSA

If it's an elevated PSA he can try some high doses of Saw Palmetto. Adding exogenous test to the equation is not a good idea with an enlarged prostate.

 

[Ashop]

Hey guys, my training partner and a really good friend of mine just found out he has an enlarged prostate.... the trouble is, he is only 21! he hasnt done anything crazy with cycles or anything either, the doc said its probably something he has always had. he has only been doin 500mg TE for last 10-12 weeks and nothing for 2 years, and it was about the same dose 2 years ago. My question is what can he take with problem and be safe? anything? maybe something that doesnt convert to DHT?

He is super strong and close to setting all time bench records, but he want to at least stay big nd lean if he can do it safely. any input?

If he is 21 and already has an enlarged prostate I would advise him to avoid gear all together. When he is in his 40's or so he will regret the decisions he made at such a young age. Prostate disease (cancer and prostatitis, BPH) can be MISERABLE quality of life.

 

[homonunculus]

He said the doc said something was elevated but not sure what. Said PSA might be it?

Doc said its very unusual for someone his age to have a prostate enlarged as much as it is. Said it could turn into cancer down the road at some point, and while not for certian, if he kept taking test it would just make it surface sooner. the doc was cool about the AS issue and said it was there before he started probably.

If his PSA is elevated (depending on how elevated) they may want to check for prostate cancer, which will require biopsies. If the Doc thinks he has some kind of congenital prostatic hypertrophy, it may not be androgen sensitive.

Is he seeing a specialist?...

-Randy

 

[homonunculus]

randy,
i tried to pm you. your box is full.

Gotcha back, man.

-R

 

[big_byrd52]

They ran a camera and took a biopsy a couple days ago but has not heard back on results of the biopsy yet. We are aware of the possible problems down the road, which is why we are asking here to get as much info as we can before he decides for sure. Mainly we are curious if maintence levels and or HGH would be ok, to keep him looking better than average but still safe in the long run.

 

[AWN2004]

If he is 21 and already has an enlarged prostate I would advise him to avoid gear all together. When he is in his 40's or so he will regret the decisions he made at such a young age. Prostate disease (cancer and prostatitis, BPH) can be MISERABLE quality of life.

Alin brings up something that not too many people think about. With so many people as of late suffering from health problems that can be life threatening, why take the risk? Maybe I'm just a worry wart, but I'd rather be a little bit smaller than have to deal with something like cancer when I'm older. Besides colon cancer, prostate cancer is a big problem for males. I'm not sure why so many people choose a reckless lifestyle thinking there are no consiquences down the road. By the way, this is not directed to anyone in particular but rather just an observation I make on a daily basis in my line of work. Being careless about taking certain compounds is one thing but acutally knowing you have a pre-exsisting condition that is only going to be aggrivated by taking something like testosterone and then doing it, is mind blowing. I just wish people would take a step back and really look at what they are doing and then think about whats really important. This just mirrors some things I have been thinking about lately too. This is not a rant about being natural either. You do what you have to do to be competitive but sometimes things just are not worth the risk in my opinion. Wise words Alin.....very good advise.

 

[LATS]

hey randy.. what is the best treatment to keep the prostate healthy during cycles??. proscar?? what is your opinion..

 

[big_byrd52]

bumpin it up

 

[AWN2004]

On a side note....saw Sam in the new Powerlifting USA this month! Way to go!

 

[BrooklynBB]

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hey randy.. what is the best treatment to keep the prostate healthy during cycles??. proscar?? what is your opinion..

Bump for a response to this.

 

[big_byrd52]

Thanks AWN, i was disappointed with the coverage, but i kinda expected it to not say much with the inzer controversy and all the BS about not payin us. oh well.

 

[homonunculus]

hey randy.. what is the best treatment to keep the prostate healthy during cycles??. proscar?? what is your opinion..

LATS,

Sorry - didn't see this 'til now. As far as BEST, that I don't know. The predicament of a "cycle" could be DHT. Proscar (finasteride) is the obvious choice as it stops test--->DHT (alpha-reductase) conversion.

There are natural remedies, too, of course.

http://www.healingtherapies.info/natural_prostate_health.htm

Saw palmetto is especially good b/c it also has an action on the a1-adrenoreceptors, which may play a role.

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This is a nice article, too (he writes well, I think):

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The biggest think, LATS, I think is to consider one's choice of androgenic compounds as well as use of adrenoreceptor agonists (things like ephedrine).

Choising one's "ergogenic / anabolic" supplements is as important as choosing one's supplements to help balance the sides of the ergogenics / anabolics.

-R