Test and gh only

[bigdog123]

Why don't we do this? Increasing dose as required.

What else does a guy need for growth?

Slin if desired.

 

[bg091593]

nice

 

[thethinker48]

A lot of guys do just that in the off season

 

[chinaboy]

Confucius says...test, GH, slin. Increase dose only as needed.

 

[Nycmuscle6782]

Confucius says...test, GH, slin. Increase dose only as needed.

Still good without the slin?


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[brocksamson]

It would all be goal dependent and personal preference

 

[NGL34]

Diminishing returns will eventually happen on test only.

The benefits to side effect ratio will start to shift more towards side effects once you start to getting into the higher test ranges.

 

[Nycmuscle6782]

Diminishing returns will eventually happen on test only.



The benefits to side effect ratio will start to shift more towards side effects once you start to getting into the higher test ranges.

What do you consider higher?


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[1bigmofo]

my personal preference in the off season...800 test per week, 5 iu GH daily...have not ever thrown in slin...gonna be 50 in January

 

[NGL34]

What do you consider higher?


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It's going to be very individualize, but for me personally anything over a gram/ week is where I start to encounter more sides than gains.

 

[megarips250]

Why don't we do this? Increasing dose as required.

What else does a guy need for growth?

Slin if desired.

All you need is a clean diet, calorie surplus, test, AI, and a good pre workout oral like drol to maximize growth. GH, Slin, IGF-1, etc are all "extra". By no means am I down playing the effectiveness of those items but they shouldn't be viewed as a necessity to grow muscle. Learning and implementing new techniques on training and nutrition will go a long way to maximizing growth. PEDs are the cherry on top.

 

[armada]

Most of the year I just run testosterone and GH. I can accomplish most of what I want with just those 2 compounds.

I add in deca alongside the test periodically. I usually use that period to take a break from GH.

The last 4-6 weeks of a diet I'll add in mast and/or anavar to help create a more aesthetic look.

If I competed, I would take a more aggressive and complex approach, but I've found that my body really responds well to this approach.