Test Cyp by Watson CRASHED!!

mohawkmike · Jan 15, 2010

I've got a script for test cyp which is made by watson pharm. The place I store it, the temps right around 50-65 degrees. I've got a few bottles of watson cyp along with some UGL made stuff to stored in the same place. My 1 bottle of watson cyp crashed but my others(UGL and few other bottles of watson) didnt. I cannt figure out why the 1 crashed and the others didnt. Any ideas?

zaven · Jan 15, 2010

Do all the Watsons have the same exp and has the one that crashed been in there any longer than the others by any chance....probably not though eh..??

mohawkmike · Jan 15, 2010

zaven said:
Do all the Watsons have the same exp and has the one that crashed been in there any longer than the others by any chance....probably not though eh..??

they all exp the same yr, the stuff thats been in there longer didnt crash.

Stewie Griffon · Jan 15, 2010

heat it up under hot water

scottbee · Jan 15, 2010

keep it at regular room temp-68-72

mohawkmike · Jan 15, 2010

scottbee said:
keep it at regular room temp-68-72

i know that, but my question to all was why did only 1 bottle of the watson crash and not the other bottles of watson and the ugl stuff?

Thick1 · Jan 15, 2010

Probably in the way it was made, even though it is a legit pharmecutical company doesn't mean they mess up from time to time. If you have a script take it back to the pharmacy to get another vial and the pharmacy will contact Watson who will probably pull all of the same lot numbers.

Ashop · Jan 15, 2010

mohawkmike said:
I've got a script for test cyp which is made by watson pharm. The place I store it, the temps right around 50-65 degrees. I've got a few bottles of watson cyp along with some UGL made stuff to stored in the same place. My 1 bottle of watson cyp crashed but my others(UGL and few other bottles of watson) didnt. I cannt figure out why the 1 crashed and the others didnt. Any ideas?

Call your pharmacy and make them replace it.
Its pretty easy to get it back in solution though.

mcswag · Feb 8, 2014

WTF man

I know I'm bumping an old ass thread but I just went to use my bottle of watson test cyp today and realized it was crashed. I used a torch lighter to bring it back, but I don't know how long it crashed. The bottle only has about 2.5ml taken out of it and I shoot .5 ml every 4 days. It may have been like that from the start, the bottle is amber so Its not as easy to notice. It also could have happened since the last time I used it.

Have I been shooting no test for the last 20 days? and now that I fixed the bottle Is the concentration higher then 200mg/ml, Id think so? Bugs me out because I'm so anal about taking a consistent amount of test especially since I'm taking such a low dose of 175mg for the week.

Also Ive always stored in the same spot. Room temp, nothing has changed.. I have two other bottles that are completely normal.

snigg · Feb 9, 2014

mcswag said:
I know I'm bumping an old ass thread but I just went to use my bottle of watson test cyp today and realized it was crashed. I used a torch lighter to bring it back, but I don't know how long it crashed. The bottle only has about 2.5ml taken out of it and I shoot .5 ml every 4 days. It may have been like that from the start, the bottle is amber so Its not as easy to notice. It also could have happened since the last time I used it.

Have I been shooting no test for the last 20 days? and now that I fixed the bottle Is the concentration higher then 200mg/ml, Id think so? Bugs me out because I'm so anal about taking a consistent amount of test especially since I'm taking such a low dose of 175mg for the week.

Also Ive always stored in the same spot. Room temp, nothing has changed.. I have two other bottles that are completely normal.

now that fixed it is the concentration higher than 200mg/ml? how would that be possible? to fix it did you add more testosterone powder to the vial? no you didnt. you heated it up, swirled it around, and brought it back into solution. if all the hersheys syrup sinks to the bottom of your milk, and you stir up, is it more chocolately than when you first started drinking it? no, it's not

SAGE74 · Feb 9, 2014

I've been on HRT for years and I've used Watson and sandos. There is nothing wrong with ur test, it just came out of solution. Run it under hot water for a minute and it will go back into solution. U won't have any problems.

KUVinny · Feb 9, 2014

He is correct to suggest the concentration is off although to what degree is unknown without further analysis. If the chocolate in chocolate milk suddenly separates out you create 2 phases, and if you withdraw a specific amount of liquid you will withdraw more of the denser phase (assuming you invert the container to withdraw).

QuietStorm · Feb 9, 2014

snigg said:
now that fixed it is the concentration higher than 200mg/ml? how would that be possible? to fix it did you add more testosterone powder to the vial? no you didnt. you heated it up, swirled it around, and brought it back into solution. if all the hersheys syrup sinks to the bottom of your milk, and you stir up, is it more chocolately than when you first started drinking it? no, it's not

If he took a ml out while it was crashed, his solution was not thoroughly mixed and the concentration was not accurate.
He did mention he wasnt sure if it was like that all along or just after his last shot.

Mcswag, if it is a script, take it back to the pharmacy and get it replaced.

kalika · Feb 9, 2014

was it bought at walgreens? I have had bad meds there on a couple occasions. Nevermind, looks like your not in the USA.

mcswag · Feb 9, 2014

It was bought at Walgreens, by a friend of mine who has a script. They will just replace it with a fresh 10ml no questions asked?

and to the chocolate milk guy. If the chocolate settles at the bottom and then you drink some of the plain milk, or what is less concentrated chocolate milk, when you remix that chocolate sitting at the bottom with the milk that is left over its going to be extra chocolatey… I don't even know if chocolately is a word but you don't necessarily have to add more "chocolate" or "test" to increase the concentration if your removing some of that volume that it mixes with

HammerT1 · Feb 9, 2014

If it's a newer script Walgreens should replace it. Older, I doubt it. Then the question becomes why wasn't it all used already.
I've gotten some vials mail (not Watson) order and it stated in instructions do not call pharmacy for crashesd test suspension. This is normal due to x,y or z and here's how to get test to fall back into suspension. Even in the manufactures little phamplets inside the box with the vials they had a section dedicated to how to fix it. So it does happen and enough some manufactures/ mail order insurance pharmacies have taken steps to not be replacing vials just because it crashed.
Walgreens has always been good about replacing defective or issues with scripts for me. But it's usally been within a week of getting script when I called and explained issue.

kalika · Feb 10, 2014

hammer if every month your there getting the same med, they should have freshies waiting. This is why I pay an extra 5 bucks and use a local mom and pa pharm. always fresh. I hate walgreens honestly.

ubermensch · Feb 10, 2014

i'm prescribed cyp and even at a 100mg/cc my watson from pharmacy has tendency to crash

HammerT1 · Feb 10, 2014

He was referring to Walgrens so I shared my
experience on Walgreens replacing items. There's a lot of things they doo add backwards but that's another story.

I found a small private pharmacy after I found out W's was overcharging me and screwing some other things up most likey intentionally.
The owner of the private pharmacy and I bs a lot. All your small pharmacies belong to something like a buying group. Ie there's a warehouse full of meds.
They call in their scripts and the scripts are dropped off for not in house items. So in reality you probably don't have fresh vials. They stock as little as possible so their overhead is lower. As a service to their customers if your getting something that isn't normally stocked they keep
It stock or it's dropped off a few days before your last script expires. Customers like not having to wait when they drop off scripts. W's never had Watson Test or several of my other scripts on hand as it was so I always had to wait a few days for even them to order it in.
The only difference is if your independent pharmacy was making the final test product in house. Even if they went with a compounding pharmacy unless it's stamped with a just made label (recent date) it's probably been sitting. No idea how long the powder has been sitting or stored though. There is also reason to be concerned about who made it too. As some compunders are intentionally skirting laws. Usally means they are skirting other protocols too.

My place has the ability to compound. He told me it's cheaper for him to buy from their supplier then it would be to buy it compounded or compound it himself because the quantities of raws he would have to buy to make it a worthwhile investment their just isn't the total resale volume to make it a worthwhile endavor. Then we get into the whole regulation end since it's an injection. We got into the topic of the bad epidurials because I was concerned since I get them on a regular basis. He explained how that crap happens. That in reality there's more incidents just not realized for waht it was. I had gotten product from an out of state pharmacy through a trt
clinic. I had an issue and was told to call the compunder/pharmacy. I never got a call back or email returned despite numerous attempts. Told my pharmacist about it and he looked up said pharmacy. They weren't even licensed to be doing what they were doing.

At least for Pharmacy grade just because it came from the store doesn't mean it's always g2g.
Yeah, I like walking into pharmacy and hearing hey (name) how's it going. Your order is ready. Then Bsing for a bit. If I got questions about anything he's get an answer and it's confidential. He makes that very clear.