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The Leg Program That Worked Too Well?

JackBNimble

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From T-Mag for your consideration

Hungarian Oak Leg Blast
The Leg Program That Worked Too Well
by Christian Thibaudeau


Benoit Brodeur has been the President of the Quebec Bodybuilding Federation for around 20 years. Muscle — especially bodybuilding — is his passion. He's traveled around the world from Tahiti to California, trying to learn and develop the art of building muscle.

Benoit has been trained by the likes of Vince Gironda, Mike Mentzer, and Robbie Robinson, and he's trained alongside legends like Tom Platz, Bertil Fox, and other such monsters of the past era.



Recently he's been in contact with a lot of top pros, the likes of Gunther and Ronnie, hiring them to guest pose at the shows he promotes.

The bottom line is that this guy has seen it all!

He called me the other day and rather than say, ''Hi Chris, how are you doing?" he just exclaimed:

''I just saw the freakiest pair of legs I've ever seen since I trained alongside Tom Platz!''

Now, even today in an era of freaks, Platz's legs are still recognized as the freakiest in the history of bodybuilding. When a guy who's seen it all gets excited about something like that, you know he saw something special!



''The guy isn't even a bodybuilder'' he added. ''He's an Olympic wrestler from Hungary who's visiting some friends in Montreal."

Benoit and the Hungarian got to talking and the wrestler was complaining that he has to stop training legs because his new program got them so big, he had to move up two weight classes! Benoit measured the guy's legs...they were 34 inches in circumference! That's almost a yard!

To help you grasp that, a 28 inches pair of muscular legs is darn impressive, but 34-inch legs are kinda' like 24-inches arms — something that normally belongs to the world of unicorns and sorcerers. But this guy was for real.

Obviously Benoit, being the student of bodybuilding he is, wanted to learn about this seemingly ''excessively effective training program.''

It wasn't some secret Eastern European method. In fact, it's so simplistic that it boggles the mind:

• One set of squats

• Two sets of leg extensions

• Three sets of leg curls

That's it!

But the efficacy wasn't to be found in the amount of sets or the exercise selection; rather it was in the way each exercise was being performed.

Exercise 1) Full back squat: for this first movement our Hungarian friend would perform two warm-up sets with 135lbs. By the way, that 135lbs was all that he used for his work set too! Once he felt properly warmed-up by doing 2 sets of 6-8 slow reps, the wrestler would begin his work set from hell.

Understand that when Benoit met this guy, he had used this program for about 8 weeks or so. But here's the twist: his one work set of squats consisted of squatting in non-stop fashion for 8 minutes straight! That's right.

He didn't start there though. He began the program by doing a set for two minutes and gradually adding time each subsequent session.

Week 1

Session 1.1: (Monday) 1 x 2 minutes
Session 1.2: (Thursday) 1 x 2:20

Week 2

Session 2.1: (Monday) 1 x 2:40
Session 2.2: (Thursday) 1 x 3 minutes

Week 3

Session 3.1: (Monday) 1 x 3:20
Session 3.2: (Thursday) 1 x 3:40

Week 4

Session 4.1: (Monday) 1 x 4 minutes
Session 4.2: (Thursday) 1 x 4:20

Week 5

Session 5.1: (Monday) 1 x 4:40
Session 5.2: (Thursday) 1 x 5 minutes

Week 6

Session 6.1: (Monday) 1 x 5:30
Session 6.2: (Thursday) 1 x 6 minutes

Week 7

Session 7.1: (Monday) 1 x 6:30
Session 7.2: (Thursday) 1 x 7 minutes

Week 8

Session 8.1: (Monday) 1 x 7:30
Session 8.2: (Thursday) 1 x 8 minutes

He kept using the same 135lbs for the duration of the whole cycle. That weight represented around 30% of his full back-squat maximum. The reps were kept smooth and controlled but the lifting portion was performed explosively, at least as fast as his fatigue level allowed.

Exercise 2) Leg extensions: Honestly, after doing squats (especially when the sets got to be longer than 3 minutes), I have no idea how he even made it to the leg extension machine! But once seated he would perform 2 sets of 30 reps; 10 reps with the legs turned inward, 10 reps with the legs straight, and 10 reps with the legs turned outward. Each rep was ''squeezed'' at the peak contraction point and held for a second or so.

2 sets x 30 reps

Exercise 3) Leg curls (lying): Three sets were performed in extended fashion. He performed 6-8 reps with the maximal weight possible for that number of reps (at that point, just being able to flex at the knee is impressive since the quads are so pumped!). He'd then pause for 10-12 seconds and then continue to failure.

3 x 6-8 (with a 10-12 second pause, and then continuing to failure)

That's it!

At it's longest (week 8), this workout lasted around 20 minutes, the bulk of the time being spent puking and tumbling toward the different workstations!




Conclusion

This workout can seem to be fairly simple (it is) but if you give it all you've got, it will be one of the hardest routines of your life! It can be deceptive, though. The first 2-3 sessions are somewhat easier as they're designed to get you used to the type of effort you'll have to give later on.

Regardless, once you reach the point where your set of squat reaches 3 minutes, you'll have the feeling that you've been hit by a Mack truck!

Not many people can actually tough out the plan and reach 8 minutes, as it requires a special breed of individual. But those who do tough it out will achieve a level of lower body development that would otherwise normally have taken years to achieve!


[Editor's Note: I apologize that we don't have any pictures of this Hungarian monster, but the article was so damn interesting that I decided it should be posted anyway.]
 
Very interesting. This would prove the "time under tension" rule to muscle building. Even though he is using low weight, his time under tension is tremendous compared to a regular workout. His one set of squats at 8 mins is almost like 4 - 5 workouts in one when you compare time under tension. Then he is hitting up 2 more excercises with even further time under tension.

I wonder how this could be applied to the upper body.
 
I would love to hear from someone on here that has tried something similar. I am always willing to be follow as guinea pig if someone has tried it before me. Sounds very exciting. YOu would think that if it truly works that great that there would be more reports of indiviudals out there taht have tried it and had good results. Anyone on here game to give it a try?
 
I would think that his natural progression would then be to add more resistance and start the cycle over again. Wondering how much he would add. Perhaps 5% or somewhere in that neighborhood.
 
one guy doing a training program with 34 inch legs is an anecdote. This kind of high rep training can be beneficial for leg training but it is far from the end all be all.
 
one guy doing a training program with 34 inch legs is an anecdote. This kind of high rep training can be beneficial for leg training but it is far from the end all be all.

True I am sure. You wouldnt want to train this way all of the time. Use it as part of a peridoization.
 
Kinds reminds me of the stories of Nubret benching with 135 all day and doing curls for like 15 minutes with smallish dumbells...
 
Could be something to it....I don`t know if anyone here remembers Randy Burridge who was an NHL Allstar in `92,played in Boston and LA with Kurri,Gretzky ect. His nickname was stumpy and he had some Big Quads.He trained at my gym every summer and all he did for legs were squats with a 50 lb dumbell in each hand for 2 sets of 300 nonstop ATG...must have taken him at least 10 minutes a set.
 
I know I had decent size in my legs from the early days when I would cycle for 50 to 100 miles at a time, average around 18 miles/hour. My calves especially.
 
I remember reading years ago that the great Tom Platz would sometimes go into the gym and set a timer for 2 minutes(or five,not sure which now),and he would squat with 225 until the timer went off.Now that's T.U.T. I also read that he used to apply so much force when doing leg extensions,that by the time he finished a set,the whole machine would have moved about five foot from where he first started!!!!!!!!! He really was King of the legs!!!!!
 
NONSENSE

THAT ROUTINE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE TYPE OF FIBERS THAT RESPOND TO THAT TYPE OF VOLUME, SPECIFICALLY ANEROBIC GLYCOLYTIC FIBERS FIBERS, OR TYPE 2 INTERMEDIATE FIBERS. THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL AND FOR ANYONE ON HERE TO BELIEVE THIS IS FOOLISH. GENETICS IS THE MAIN FACTOR AT PLAY IN THIS GUYS QUADS, NOT 8 MINUTE ABS OR THIGHS.
 
THAT ROUTINE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE TYPE OF FIBERS THAT RESPOND TO THAT TYPE OF VOLUME, SPECIFICALLY ANEROBIC GLYCOLYTIC FIBERS FIBERS, OR TYPE 2 INTERMEDIATE FIBERS. THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL AND FOR ANYONE ON HERE TO BELIEVE THIS IS FOOLISH. GENETICS IS THE MAIN FACTOR AT PLAY IN THIS GUYS QUADS, NOT 8 MINUTE ABS OR THIGHS.

Surely goes against everything we have learned from experience. Suppose common sense prevails here, and just have to accept that there are some genetic exceptions out there. Its not like you see a lot of long distance runners out there with huge quads.
 
THAT ROUTINE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE TYPE OF FIBERS THAT RESPOND TO THAT TYPE OF VOLUME, SPECIFICALLY ANEROBIC GLYCOLYTIC FIBERS FIBERS, OR TYPE 2 INTERMEDIATE FIBERS. THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL AND FOR ANYONE ON HERE TO BELIEVE THIS IS FOOLISH. GENETICS IS THE MAIN FACTOR AT PLAY IN THIS GUYS QUADS, NOT 8 MINUTE ABS OR THIGHS.

Exactly. This n=1 experiment is hardly proof. By this article, why not take 95lbs and go for 20min?
 
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Well I will give it a try over the next couple of weeks and see how it goes. It is worth giving a try. Just because Phil says something doesnt work doesnt mean now everyone has to shoot down the idea. No disrespect but there are plenty of ways to skin a cat ill be the guniea pig
 
Fool!

Well I will give it a try over the next couple of weeks and see how it goes. It is worth giving a try. Just because Phil says something doesnt work doesnt mean now everyone has to shoot down the idea. No disrespect but there are plenty of ways to skin a cat ill be the guniea pig


why not go out and run 10 miles! there is no difference! have fun chicken legs..................
 
HEY...THERE IS NO NEED FOR NAME CALLING OR ANY OR THAT CRAP.

THE GUY SAYS HE'S GOING TO TRY IT...LET HIM TRY IT. HE'S WILLING TO EXPERIMENT. I DON'T THINK THAT MAKES HIM A FOOL OR THAT HE'LL HAVE CHICKEN LEGS AT THE END OF HIS SQUATTING EXPERIMENT.

WORSE CASE SCENARIO...THE GUY WILL FIND OUT THIS METHOD OF TRAINING DOESN'T WORK.

SO, TAKE IT EASY.
 
Exactly. This n=1 experiment is hardly proof. By this article, why not take 95lbs and go for 20min?

Or even just bodyweight and squat yourself into kneecap submission.

The thing that gets me about this article is the following line:

"He kept using the same 135lbs for the duration of the whole cycle. That weight represented around 30% of his full back-squat maximum."

If that's true, then his MAX is 405. How does this guy know what his max is?

Maybe he uses this method only for a brief period to give his heavier lifts a rest, and thus allows his thighs to grow and become vascular.

But common sense just would not allow this to be true, and he has to be a genetic freak, especially comparing him to a guy like Tom Platz... That's a bit of a stretch.
 
Very interesting, but i kinda doubt it as well. It may be incorporated after a few weeks of heavy, low-rep trainings session and offers a benefit.

If it would work this well, all of us doing Body Pump classes (Assuming I'm not the only one doing aerobic classes :rolleyes: ), would have great leg development. Unfortunately, this isn't the case. The tracks we use at our gym are around 4 min. long for continuous squats and barely any of the guys taking these classes have massive legs, myself included (I wish I had though).

I'm looking forward to some feedback from guys that are trying it out!!!! Good Luck!
 
THAT ROUTINE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE TYPE OF FIBERS THAT RESPOND TO THAT TYPE OF VOLUME, SPECIFICALLY ANEROBIC GLYCOLYTIC FIBERS FIBERS, OR TYPE 2 INTERMEDIATE FIBERS. THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL AND FOR ANYONE ON HERE TO BELIEVE THIS IS FOOLISH. GENETICS IS THE MAIN FACTOR AT PLAY IN THIS GUYS QUADS, NOT 8 MINUTE ABS OR THIGHS.
There's more to muscle size than just bigger muscle fibers. Sarcoplasmic growth.
 
OK

There's more to muscle size than just bigger muscle fibers. Sarcoplasmic growth.

PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS..........NO MORE DEBATING HERE. I WANT BEFORE PICTURES AND AFTER PICTURES. LETS GO. PROVE US WRONG PLEASE. RRYAN3, I WANT YOU TO KEP US UPDATED. I WILL START A NEW THREAD ABOUT IT.
 

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