what do you think? hgh vs cjc/ghrp

katon · Jul 14, 2009

i am thinking of using peptides again. i have used them all in various different ways but never really ran hgh for a year at 4-5ius ED like i can now.. i have4 also used cjc and ghrp together and really loved the results as well but with all the talk of the cjc not being cjc but still as effective and tons of other stuff i am thinking of just going the hgh route.what do you guys think and who is everyone using sponserwise for the cjc? i am looking for lean mass, recovery, healing etc as goals ohh and of course fat loss..

jm425 · Jul 14, 2009

I think you should do a search because your question has been answered in other threads.

katon · Jul 14, 2009

jm425 said:
I think you should do a search because your question has been answered in other threads.

why thank you for that gem..i have been reading for hours on this board alone and various others so i wanted to start another thread/debate..personally i loved the results i got from the cjc/ghrp combo but like i said i have never been able (till now) run gh for that long..i am thinking of just doing both..start with the cjc then after a few month run switch to hgh and compare for myself..more expensive this way but i bet i would get a better idea for the next time and that way i wont have to ask questions like this and get wonderful gems of insight like the one you gave..

nosnmiveins · Jul 14, 2009

katon can u elaborate more about ur results from the cjc/ghrp? dose...length...etc

jm425 · Jul 14, 2009

katon said:
why thank you for that gem..i have been reading for hours on this board alone and various others so i wanted to start another thread/debate..personally i loved the results i got from the cjc/ghrp combo but like i said i have never been able (till now) run gh for that long..i am thinking of just doing both..start with the cjc then after a few month run switch to hgh and compare for myself..more expensive this way but i bet i would get a better idea for the next time and that way i wont have to ask questions like this and get wonderful gems of insight like the one you gave..

There are many threads on this board where the members have spoken of their experiences with both gh and cjc. If you truly did read for hours on end on gh and cjc/ghrp combo, then you should already have a good idea on what is to be expected.

paullyd99 · Jul 14, 2009

If you're torn, then why not run both?

Many guys on here are taking DATs advise and mixing all three with great results.

I've also seen guys on other boards run 5 or 6 iu's of GH with CJC for fatloss purposes with success.

cjjrwe · Jul 14, 2009

Run both, ghrp6/cjc and hgh.

katon · Jul 14, 2009

nosnmiveins said:
katon can u elaborate more about ur results from the cjc/ghrp? dose...length...etc

sure thing bro..i ran the cjc at 100mcgs 3x a day and the ghrp 50-150mcgs 3x a day too..i only ran it like this for 2.5 months but was very pleased with the results..my diet wasnt all that great and clean but i continually got leaner, my sleep was better and i didnt require as much as usual. and for me the best result was i recovered very very well, that was the most amazing thing for me...i also did the same protocol but with lower doses and the overall effect was simliar but it did get better with the higher doses, as in, the recovery aspect was more pronounced, same with ability to not gain as much fat...

katon · Jul 14, 2009

jm425 said:
There are many threads on this board where the members have spoken of their experiences with both gh and cjc. If you truly did read for hours on end on gh and cjc/ghrp combo, then you should already have a good idea on what is to be expected.

thank you again

katon · Jul 14, 2009

paullyd99 said:
If you're torn, then why not run both?

Many guys on here are taking DATs advise and mixing all three with great results.

I've also seen guys on other boards run 5 or 6 iu's of GH with CJC for fatloss purposes with success.

i was just considering this but cost wise it will be a tad bit harder to swing, if i really want to try adn run the doses i have been thinking about. i may just try the cjc/ghrp combo at the doses dat and some others have suggested then afterward run the hgh at 4-6ius for 7-8 months or so..from the people i have spoken with they seem to think that hgh (synthetic) really changes the overall body "look/compostion" better at those doses over a substantial period of time. but i am really curious at how a longer run of the gh peptides would look body compostion wise..liike i have stated i never had the chance to run gh for that long at that steady dose so i am interested in comparing both the long term results now of the individual trials. then maybe combining them afterward..i was just wondering which i should start with..

hghslinturn · Jul 14, 2009

katon said:
why thank you for that gem..i have been reading for hours on this board alone and various others so i wanted to start another thread/debate..personally i loved the results i got from the cjc/ghrp combo but like i said i have never been able (till now) run gh for that long..i am thinking of just doing both..start with the cjc then after a few month run switch to hgh and compare for myself..more expensive this way but i bet i would get a better idea for the next time and that way i wont have to ask questions like this and get wonderful gems of insight like the one you gave..

i knew someone stupid would say something like that. Of coarse every questions been asked but its like finding a needle in a hay stack sometimes. I dont know why people come into your thread to slag it why not just carry on your way.

So to answer your first question. I have done 3 months of 3 iu's a day of hgh yellow tops and it was with out a doubt the biggest waste of money ever...and i have done some stupid sh*t before.

Moving a long to ghrp-6 and cjc..........dunno im in the same boat as you. Yes it seems cheaper but i have talked to a pro bber who says ghrp-2 ghrp-6 cjc hexa igf etc are all a bullsh*t phase that will be forgotton in 2 years. His exact words were that "hgh is tried tested and true and has been aroundfor years"

that being said i still would try ghrp-6 alone because its so cheap why wouldnt you?

HawaiiMuscle · Jul 14, 2009

hghslinturn said:
i knew someone stupid would say something like that. Of coarse every questions been asked but its like finding a needle in a hay stack sometimes. I dont know why people come into your thread to slag it why not just carry on your way.

So to answer your first question. I have done 3 months of 3 iu's a day of hgh yellow tops and it was with out a doubt the biggest waste of money ever...and i have done some stupid sh*t before.

Moving a long to ghrp-6 and cjc..........dunno im in the same boat as you. Yes it seems cheaper but i have talked to a pro bber who says ghrp-2 ghrp-6 cjc hexa igf etc are all a bullsh*t phase that will be forgotton in 2 years. His exact words were that "hgh is tried tested and true and has been aroundfor years"
that being said i still would try ghrp-6 alone because its so cheap why wouldnt you?

That was an ignorant statement. Give that combo a try for 1 month and report back.

hghslinturn · Jul 14, 2009

HawaiiMuscle said:
That was an ignorant statement. Give that combo a try for 1 month and report back.

Hay you totally took that the wrong way, im simply stating what i have been told from a pro! it was relivant, I never said i beleived him, and i hope its not true. I still am going to try all of the above and will definately report back. dont b so crabby.

HERCSTA · Jul 14, 2009

I have done moderate doseages of GH 2-6 ius daily in different protocols for 1year and have been happy with the results. After researching CJC/GHRP, I decided to come off the GH and start a run with CJC/GHRP. It has been 1 month and I have to say this there is no GH like your own. I am very happy with the CJC/GHRP and feel that for me it has given equal if not better results than synthetic GH. Plus my prolactin sides I experienced with synthetic GH are gone.

papapumpsd · Jul 14, 2009

If you have used GHRH/GHRP in the past with great results and it's more cost-effective, why go to GH? Will there be a dramatic result from moving to strictly GH? Probably not. There will be a substantial price differential though.

As the others have said, you could play around with a hybrid approach of GHRH/GHRP/GH. You will still be increasing the "price/unit result" due to the increased cost of GH, but if price isn't an issue, go bananas.

Regarding the poster who is spreading hear-say from the Pro BBer, I'm not sure if anyone here gives a rat's ass what some BBer is saying regarding his/her poorly formed opinion on peptides. To say that they are all B.S. is a shameful blanket statement that really has no value. If this individual thinks GH is superior to GHRH/GHRP/etc because it's "tried and true", then maybe (s)he should try reading the studies behind the "inferior" peptides which prove they too are tried and true (through medical research). Then again, I don't really care.

robot · Jul 14, 2009

In general exogenous HGH is going to be more effective than peptides that cause the body to produce more of its own HGH. It like comparing some kind of testosterone boosting use of diet/fats to injecting a gram of testosterone. The body simply is not able to produce the volume of hgh that can be injected.

papapumpsd · Jul 14, 2009

robot said:
In general exogenous HGH is going to be more effective than peptides that cause the body to produce more of its own HGH. It like comparing some kind of testosterone boosting use of diet/fats to injecting a gram of testosterone. The body simply is not able to produce the volume of hgh that can be injected.

How would you explain acromegaly? Their 24-hr GH AUC is many times that of a normal individual. This is endog GH.

Bobaslaw · Jul 14, 2009

robot said:
In general exogenous HGH is going to be more effective than peptides that cause the body to produce more of its own HGH. It like comparing some kind of testosterone boosting use of diet/fats to injecting a gram of testosterone. The body simply is not able to produce the volume of hgh that can be injected.

Blatantly false info. Please do some research as there are studies posted in Dat's thread re: daily AUC as well as peak pulsitility from varying dosages of GHRPs vs GH as well as extrapolated data re: GRF/GHRP dosing.

Below is mostly just related to GHRP dosing and equivalent comparison to GH. The synergistic action of GHRH(GRF) combined with a GHRP pulse initiation is capable of surpassing the 20iu/day mark depending on dosage frequency and amounts. Pituitary somatotroph stores and synthesis of hGH can be quite dramatic in a 24 hr period, a max of 30iu/day of "releasable" hGH is fathomable.

Simple Comparison:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showpost.php?p=608156&postcount=259

Study Info supporting the calculation of comparisons here:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showpost.php?p=516864&postcount=591

katon · Jul 14, 2009

papapumpsd said:
If you have used GHRH/GHRP in the past with great results and it's more cost-effective, why go to GH? Will there be a dramatic result from moving to strictly GH? Probably not. There will be a substantial price differential though.

As the others have said, you could play around with a hybrid approach of GHRH/GHRP/GH. You will still be increasing the "price/unit result" due to the increased cost of GH, but if price isn't an issue, go bananas.

Regarding the poster who is spreading hear-say from the Pro BBer, I'm not sure if anyone here gives a rat's ass what some BBer is saying regarding his/her poorly formed opinion on peptides. To say that they are all B.S. is a shameful blanket statement that really has no value. If this individual thinks GH is superior to GHRH/GHRP/etc because it's "tried and true", then maybe (s)he should try reading the studies behind the "inferior" peptides which prove they too are tried and true (through medical research). Then again, I don't really care.

thanks for all the responses guys i am going to go the cost effective route to start and go wtih the various ghrh/ghrp at the 2mgs a week of cjc broken up into daily shots and ghrp-2 in the same manner..i did like the effects and they appeared to be more dramatic (faster) so i will def try it out..thanks again for everyones input..

jm425 · Jul 15, 2009

hghslinturn said:
i knew someone stupid would say something like that. Of coarse every questions been asked but its like finding a needle in a hay stack sometimes. I dont know why people come into your thread to slag it why not just carry on your way.

So to answer your first question. I have done 3 months of 3 iu's a day of hgh yellow tops and it was with out a doubt the biggest waste of money ever...and i have done some stupid sh*t before.

Moving a long to ghrp-6 and cjc..........dunno im in the same boat as you. Yes it seems cheaper but i have talked to a pro bber who says ghrp-2 ghrp-6 cjc hexa igf etc are all a bullsh*t phase that will be forgotton in 2 years. His exact words were that "hgh is tried tested and true and has been aroundfor years"

that being said i still would try ghrp-6 alone because its so cheap why wouldnt you?

ROFL. Stupid? There have been countless testimonies from members who have posted up their results from gh and the cjc/ghrp combo. Anyone who actually does a search should have a good idea on the results of both peps/proteins. Don't insult me with your degrading/ignorant statements when clearly, common sense would have prevailed in this thread.