chris250 said:
Besides HGH and slin (its a peptide right ?) when did all these damn peptides start coming out ??? I mean every week now, it seems like a new peptide is invented or something new miracle drug/peptide is invented...I think its just crazy, and most of them are probably not worth a damn...
Your body is full of peptides....in the form of short amino acid chains all the way up to longer amino acid chains often called proteins.
Sometimes peptides are also hormones.
There are a lot of Nobel Prizes for Chemistry that have been awarded for discoveries in protein chemistry.
Your genes carry the instruction set for making proteins. Proteins are the key molecules in the processes of life, and it is now known that virtually all the activities which sustain living organisms are carried out by proteins (i.e. peptides).
Enzymes, regulatory proteins, transport proteins, antibodies, muscle proteins collagen, toxins...
So I don't know why you use a pejorative to describe peptides. There are thousands of research peptides available...
...the antagonists for GHRH are beautiful things if you have certain types of cancer. These peptides stop tumors from growing and busting through boundaries and have been shown to shrink tumors to the point that conventional therapy completely destroys all the cancer cells.
What bodybuilders do is try to look at what has been discovered and apply it to their muscle building, fat losing goals.
Just because IGF-1 LR3 doesn't work for you doesn't mean IGF-1 bound to IGFBP-3 which when injected will bind to Acid Labile Subunits won't. The latter certainly would create local growth.
Just because you expect MGF to behave as MGF and it doesn't when injected doesn't mean it won't act as IGF-1.
Using a viral vector to deliver the peptide MGF into muscle cells triples muscle tissue in a month or so.
Its no use arguing with people like you Chris because you are not willing to read or attempt to understand things. Instead I can tell by the PMs to me (from you & those like you) that you want one or two sentence answers.
Those kinds of people will inject ever increasing amounts of steroids but never NOT for one minute think about taking steps to increase androgen receptor transcription (i.e. upregulate androgen receptors) so that you can grow more tissue with lower amounts of androgens.
Stuff like this is simple and hidden in plain site.
Peptides are never THE answer to achieving the body of your dreams. GH isn't anabolic w/o insulin and conversely if you elevate GH in the presence of insulin you won't lose much if any fat.
You sound frustrated Chris because prices are too high IMHO across the board for such items.
But at your age you don't NEED these things. They are useful adjuvants for the young and in regard to modified GRF(1-29)/GHRP-6 or GH necessary for the middle-aged older athlete.
So Chris just save your money, go with what you know & prepare for your show. There's no need to be frustrated about anything bro.
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