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Winstrol and S4... thought?

kevfrancone

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I'm 28yro 6-0 205 at 6 to 7% body fat. Don't know a great deal about anabolics... last summer I was 200 around 5% natural. Hoping to best it this summer with a 4 week cycle of 50mg/ daily winstrol and 40mg daily S4 (for 10 weeks)... thoughts?

I'm am a experienced natural lifter (for 14 years) and my diet is prime right now.

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pugberg

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im no expert but i will tell you what i can:

are you talking about running only winstrol (+s4), with no testosterone?

are you male?

men need to have some testosterone in their cycle otherwise you will get shut down and feel like shit

from what i understand you should always have some form of test in a cycle, and first cycles should usually consist of test only

id save the other compounds for later cycles... s4 is a sarm, some say it stacks well with AAS, most people seem to use it between cycles of AAS
 

kevfrancone

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im no expert but i will tell you what i can:

are you talking about running only winstrol (+s4), with no testosterone?

are you male?

men need to have some testosterone in their cycle otherwise you will get shut down and feel like shit

from what i understand you should always have some form of test in a cycle, and first cycles should usually consist of test only

id save the other compounds for later cycles... s4 is a sarm, some say it stacks well with AAS, most people seem to use it between cycles of AAS
Wasn't going to run test because for the reason I don't want to poke.

Yes, I am male.

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hiasdamoon

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Wasn't going to run test because for the reason I don't want to poke.

Yes, I am male.

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You're not gonna want to hear this, but if you don't want to poke, then perhaps gear isn't for you. To maintain a good homeostasis in your body, a dose of test goes along with most orals. Oral only cycle isn't a bad spot to start, but not winny solo. If you choose to do this you may not like the results, both in body and mentality.
 

kevfrancone

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You're not gonna want to hear this, but if you don't want to poke, then perhaps gear isn't for you. To maintain a good homeostasis in your body, a dose of test goes along with most orals. Oral only cycle isn't a bad spot to start, but not winny solo. If you choose to do this you may not like the results, both in body and mentality.
What do you mean I won't like the results body and mentality?

Thanks for the input. I'm really wanting to stay away from poking... so maybe you're right I'm still looking into eeverything at this point.

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