Zero sex drive and nothing seems to be working. Help!

gazgazo · Apr 23, 2010

I am in week 4 of my pct after finishing a 14 week cycle. I did HCG at 500iu/wk starting at week 3 of the cycle till the end of week 14 and I thought that would help me make a smooth transition to pct. I was wrong. I started the usual nolva+clomid protocol after the cycle and everything got progressively worse. Weight/strength loss but the thing that got to me the most is complete loss of sex drive and ability to get an erection. I upped the dose of my cialis up to 60 mg, other days viagra up to 200 mg just to see if I respond and I got very minimal positive effects. I don't know if my cialis/viagra are bunk (which I don't think so). I don't know what else to do. Girlfriend is very very unhappy and I am more unhappy and embarrassed. It came to a point where I started to avoid seeing her.

Anyways, long story short pct week 4 and no rebound. Am I doing something wrong? Should I add anything else (hcg, proviron) or would they fuck me up even more? I heard about prami to increase sex drive but I am also leary of taking it because of the sides. If any of you have been in a similar situation and found a way to rebound, please share. Thanks.

cmollick · Apr 23, 2010

gazgazo said:
I am in week 4 of my pct after finishing a 14 week cycle. I did HCG at 500iu/wk starting at week 3 of the cycle till the end of week 14 and I thought that would help me make a smooth transition to pct. I was wrong. I started the usual nolva+clomid protocol after the cycle and everything got progressively worse. Weight/strength loss but the thing that got to me the most is complete loss of sex drive and ability to get an erection. I upped the dose of my cialis up to 60 mg, other days viagra up to 200 mg just to see if I respond and I got very minimal positive effects. I don't know if my cialis/viagra are bunk (which I don't think so). I don't know what else to do. Girlfriend is very very unhappy and I am more unhappy and embarrassed. It came to a point where I started to avoid seeing her.

Anyways, long story short pct week 4 and no rebound. Am I doing something wrong? Should I add anything else (hcg, proviron) or would they fuck me up even more? I heard about prami to increase sex drive but I am also leary of taking it because of the sides. If any of you have been in a similar situation and found a way to rebound, please share. Thanks.

I struggled with this for a long time. Go see a good endocronoligist to get you on the right track. I fucked around trying to prescribed myself but nothing worked until I became supervised.

dece870717 · Apr 23, 2010

How much nolva/clomid are you using and did you get it from a sponsor from here?

gazgazo · Apr 23, 2010

dece870717 said:
How much nolva/clomid are you using and did you get it from a sponsor from here?

I started the first day with 150mg clomid/40 mg Nolva. Then 100mg clo/20 mg nolva for the 1st week. After that 50 mg clo/20 mg nolva. Recently I have upped the dosages again to 100mg clo/40 mg nolva and I didn't notice that much of a difference.

Yes, I got them from two different sponsors on this board.

gazgazo · Apr 23, 2010

cmollick said:
I struggled with this for a long time. Go see a good endocronoligist to get you on the right track. I fucked around trying to prescribed myself but nothing worked until I became supervised.

cmollick, would you mind sharing the protocol you used/are using?

tenny · Apr 23, 2010

do a shot of prop asap

Thick1 · Apr 23, 2010

tenny said:
do a shot of prop asap

I agree from what you have posted it seems you have a severe shutdown, you need to get some test into your system, therefore test propionate should get you back into the swing of things. Get to a doctor as you may have to go on TRT.

Ehren · Apr 23, 2010

Man, that sucks. I've heard of Clomid/Nolva having a negative effect on libido in some folks.

As said above, Prop,. Or you could also try Proviron, 75-100mg to see if not having an androgen in your system is the problem. Either way, ya may need to get to an endo for a visit.

Mind sharing your cycle/doses?

taslajrisi · Apr 23, 2010

prolactin

gazgazo said:
I am in week 4 of my pct after finishing a 14 week cycle. I did HCG at 500iu/wk starting at week 3 of the cycle till the end of week 14 and I thought that would help me make a smooth transition to pct. I was wrong. I started the usual nolva+clomid protocol after the cycle and everything got progressively worse. Weight/strength loss but the thing that got to me the most is complete loss of sex drive and ability to get an erection. I upped the dose of my cialis up to 60 mg, other days viagra up to 200 mg just to see if I respond and I got very minimal positive effects. I don't know if my cialis/viagra are bunk (which I don't think so). I don't know what else to do. Girlfriend is very very unhappy and I am more unhappy and embarrassed. It came to a point where I started to avoid seeing her.

Anyways, long story short pct week 4 and no rebound. Am I doing something wrong? Should I add anything else (hcg, proviron) or would they fuck me up even more? I heard about prami to increase sex drive but I am also leary of taking it because of the sides. If any of you have been in a similar situation and found a way to rebound, please share. Thanks.

prolactin kills sex drive...viagra will do nothing for libido (drive) proviron and anti prl (caber, bromo, prami) will fix it. I got on hrt from doc due to low test and only a small amount of test 150mg/wk is needed. I had zero sex drive after a long cycle of test/deca and the proviron/caber fixed almost too good.

gazgazo · Apr 23, 2010

Ehren said:
Man, that sucks. I've heard of Clomid/Nolva having a negative effect on libido in some folks.

As said above, Prop,. Or you could also try Proviron, 75-100mg to see if not having an androgen in your system is the problem. Either way, ya may need to get to an endo for a visit.

Mind sharing your cycle/doses?

Nothing too fancy;

Test - 500-800 mg/week tapered up and down
Deca - 200 mg/week
Winstrol - 200 mg/week (last 4 weeks)

I made the mistake of adding some tren to the mix in the last couple of weeks; probably that made the shutdown more severe.

musclemachine · Apr 24, 2010

i ran caber and tribulus to bring it up.when the drive is down..

aphextwin · Apr 24, 2010

I would recommend you go to a doctor (Endo) as soon as possible.

I think Prami is excellent for getting libido back on track. You might want to add some extra fat to see if that might increase your test levels. By this, I do not mean I recommend you eat at KFC everyday.

Ehren · Apr 24, 2010

Yeah, Deca and Tren can do that. Caber or Prami then too with Proviron, but be careful with that Prami. And still get to a doc to be sure.

Did you run the test a couple weeks longer than the Tren/Deca?

Ya know, prolactin spikes just after sex, and is credited by some as the reason we have a to take a break between romps. As you know, we're out of comission for a few minutes regardless of whether we're on Test/Viagra or whatever. Prl is powerful stuff.

kaoz · Apr 24, 2010

I WAS IN YOUR SAME SHOES LAST WEEK WAS MY 4TH WEEK PCT I HAD NO SEX DRIVE AT ALL. IT SUCKS I LOST ALL READY 8LB PLUS MY PECKER WOULDNT GET HARD IT SUCKED. I HIT SOME HCG UPPED MY TRIBULIS TO 1500MGS A DAY ADDED DHEA AT 150 MGS A DAY AND IT HELPED ALOT. OHH I ALSO BEEN POPPING SUPERMANS VIAGRA AN CIALIS COMBO GETTING BONNERS OUT OF NOWHERE NOW!

kaoz · Apr 24, 2010

Another thing thats been killling me is my joints an body ache all the time is that from low test. This happened to me the last 2 pcts hard as hell to recover i think im going to just go on hrt from a doc i hate the roller coaster with my body plus it messes with me mentally.

hemipower · Apr 24, 2010

Agreed...cialis/viagra don't raise libido only provide an erection.

Due to deca and tren problem most likely is prolactin so cabergoline or prami should help there...proviron as an androgen would be very beneficial as well. An OTC product to help with prolactin is mucana pruriens (40% L-dopa) if you want something TODAY that may help some.

But in short...if it were me I would continue PCT with cabergoline and proviron and take cialis/viagra pre-event...
if this does not fix things up then may want to see an endo if you are 30 yrs old+ and see if you need TRT. 4 weeks is kinda the breaking point also...where this is a little more common...push thru it if you are determined to cycle off, OR get back on something (prop would be appropriate) at a replacement dose (150-200mg/wk should have you feeling better).
Also consider...sex drive is VERY mental. If you THINK you can't...then you can't.

hemipower · Apr 24, 2010

kaoz said:
Another thing thats been killling me is my joints an body ache all the time is that from low test. This happened to me the last 2 pcts hard as hell to recover i think im going to just go on hrt from a doc i hate the roller coaster with my body plus it messes with me mentally.

Test + gh in moderate doses...forever. Cures what ails ya!

emeric delczeg · Apr 24, 2010

musclemachine said:
i ran caber and tribulus to bring it up.when the drive is down..

The tribulus has to be a leaf extract.

Johnny Smiles · Apr 24, 2010

lots of reasons in this thread why test ONLY is best.
only week four? be patient. things usually never got normal for me til 6 weeks or more...
thnak goodness for trt

-JS