Is getting big while staying lean a pipe dream?

[anab0lic]

Whenever I have attempted such a feat, I gain zero strength and thus no size. It seems I have to put on a couple inches round the waist to gain a significant amount of muscle.

 

[toddcdozer]

Discover trenbolone grasshopper. And run it at a ratio that the test wont overpower and make you chunky. Eat a lot and the tren will turn the food into lean muscle not blubber. I like a ratio of 2 to one for a lean bulk. So 1000 test 500 tren you wont get fat unless your diet is measured in trips to chinese buffets. No other AAS does it for me.

 

[TODouble2]

peptides have made a HUGE difference for me. since using grf/ghrp combo, i've been able to add quality pounds with little or no size added to my waistline.

 

[marshallmadman]

POW! That's it right there.

Discover trenbolone grasshopper. And run it at a ratio that the test wont overpower and make you chunky. Eat a lot and the tren will turn the food into lean muscle not blubber. I like a ratio of 2 to one for a lean bulk. So 1000 test 500 tren you wont get fat unless your diet is measured in trips to chinese buffets. No other AAS does it for me.

 

[CaptainDominate]

Todouble can you share your peptide protocol you used for staying leaner?

 

[kscowboy]

To me it depends on three things.
1. What you are starting with as far as your body and wt
2. What you call big (Your goal)
3. And what you call lean.

No amount of drugs can get you to your goal if any of the 3 is out of proportion.

 

[tenny]

yes..........you can

with one huge factor in the equation......TIME

the tortise will ALWAYS beat the hare

 

[Cactus kid]

For a long time I said no, not possible. You need excess calories to build!

But my thinking is a little different now. A restricted calorie diet will not produce growth. However, an unrestricted calorie diet will.

However, excess calories are stored as fat. So what can we do?!?

Phil has it right. Eat right. Eat when hungry.
I think if more guys followed this, staying lean while getting larger would be more of a rule and less of an exception.

I have noticed with guys who stay lean: (like Tenny)

1. Make improvements year after year
2. Never claim to gain 10, hell even 5, pounds a month.
3. Always look sharp come gameday.

 

[kscowboy]

For a long time I said no, not possible. You need excess calories to build!

But my thinking is a little different now. A restricted calorie diet will not produce growth. However, an unrestricted calorie diet will.

However, excess calories are stored as fat. So what can we do?!?

Phil has it right. Eat right. Eat when hungry.
I think if more guys followed this, staying lean while getting larger would be more of a rule and less of an exception.

I have noticed with guys who stay lean: (like Tenny)

1. Make improvements year after year
2. Never claim to gain 10, hell even 5, pounds a month.
3. Always look sharp come gameday.

Once again....Restricted calories does not have to equal restricted nutrients.

 

[grizzly978]

Tren, EQ, and Test E= Big and lean with a good diet

 

[eroc613]

Of coarse it's possible.
But like anything, it depends on your long term goals. And how much work your willing to put in. For some people it would be much easier to stay leaner while growing at a slower pace. That is, if your already eating a super clean diet year round.
There are always going to be many different answers, when all that really matters is the end result.

 

[TODouble2]

Todouble can you share your peptide protocol you used for staying leaner?

no real secret there. i'm running the peps the way most people do. 3 times a day... mod grf-129/ghrp2 100mcg each.

 

[Researchstop]

Tenny's right. You can do it, but even with Tren, you have to be patient. It'll take several months not weeks. Tren will allow you to eat more, but not "bulking levels" of more, and it will certainly change your body composition like nothing else. But as far as packing on sustainable mature muscle mass you just have to stop trying to do it in a cycle. It takes a long time when you're on calorie restrictions that staying lean requires.

 

[majsi98]

I think tren is very effective at recomposition.. But would taking tren for months like some people are recommending be safe on ones health?

Wouldn't taking a low gh dose (2iu) over a long period of time be more sustainable and better for your health?

 

[b-boy]

Whenever I have attempted such a feat, I gain zero strength and thus no size. It seems I have to put on a couple inches round the waist to gain a significant amount of muscle.

HGH :lightbulb:

b-boy approved

 

[Bolan]

HGH :lightbulb:

This is the key... a little T-3 with it and your GTG...

Problem is im too broke to run HGH anymore.

 

[Arcus]

HGH :lightbulb:

Would 2 ius daily be adequate for this purpose?

 

[b-boy]

Would 2 ius daily be adequate for this purpose?

2ius of quality GH with a pretty clean diet will yield good results, 4-8iu's of quality GH with even a half assed diet will yield great results.

b-boy approved

 

[mikeyt869]

Would 2 ius daily be adequate for this purpose?

i think 5 iu of rips would be more suitable than 2 iu but everyone is different i guess. I think the more gh the better....