I dont like mincing words...the Pro Muscle Drama of late

[Jello]

i will say this about GH 15, his advice works, atleast for me. for years i took gear at high doses,,,trained "low voulume" not to overtrain,,,,took the supposed best supplements, etc, ate right, and looked like shit. then i started reading Gh 15 stuff,,,i threw out all my supplements in teh garbage,,,,threw out all the peptides in the garbage (they didnt do anything anyway)...and ran high dose gh,,kept my gear dose the same,,,stopped worrying about overttraining and jacked my volume 3-4x what it was,,,and followed the diet of alex who is amazing,,,the only thing i didnt follow gh15 word for word is the diet,,i stick with alex for the diet,,,and in about 4 months of using GH15 protocul of throwing suppls and peptides in teh garbage and running gear with proper timing and gh,,i have grown more than i have in the past 4 years. his stuff works,,,im usuing the same amont of AAS as i used to with low volume and supps and no gh,,,im sleeping less,,and getting bigger,,,IMO its all about the GH and gear timing,,,gh15 knows his stuff.....atleast for me. and before anyone asks,,,no i wont post pics because i couldn't care less if anyone believes me

Wait, stop the press. You added high dose GH and got on a good diet plan and you're growing. Son of a bitch, where has that information been, thank God for GH15 You guys fucking crack me up.

 

[LATS]

this is kinda what we are getting at guys.. you increased your hgh and got on a good meal plan.. and your growing.. well if you read gh15 stuff the "diet" is not that important.. so in essence all you did was take increasing your hgh from gh15 and add some volume to your workout.. he could be a 17 year old "kid" behind a computer and come up with that advice..

i dont know everything about gh15.. but can tell ya that BIG A THREAD on "sick 0f this" is all that one needed.. and we know who BIG A is..

 

[PHIL HERNON]

THIS IS IT

i will say this about GH 15, his advice works, atleast for me. for years i took gear at high doses,,,trained "low voulume" not to overtrain,,,,took the supposed best supplements, etc, ate right, and looked like shit. then i started reading Gh 15 stuff,,,i threw out all my supplements in teh garbage,,,,threw out all the peptides in the garbage (they didnt do anything anyway)...and ran high dose gh,,kept my gear dose the same,,,stopped worrying about overttraining and jacked my volume 3-4x what it was,,,and followed the diet of alex who is amazing,,,the only thing i didnt follow gh15 word for word is the diet,,i stick with alex for the diet,,,and in about 4 months of using GH15 protocul of throwing suppls and peptides in teh garbage and running gear with proper timing and gh,,i have grown more than i have in the past 4 years. his stuff works,,,im usuing the same amont of AAS as i used to with low volume and supps and no gh,,,im sleeping less,,and getting bigger,,,IMO its all about the GH and gear timing,,,gh15 knows his stuff.....atleast for me. and before anyone asks,,,no i wont post pics because i couldn't care less if anyone believes me

This gets the winner for the dumbest shit I have ever read. Its an infomercial for a trainer......keep it real man. A fucking diet is a fucking diet...........nothing amazing about carrots and chicken........I would want to see pictures here, I dont fucking care if you feel that its not needed........post them up or this is a total scam. Guys like you ruin this site. More GH? High volume better than low volume? Wait until you are 40 years old and can't get up out of a chair but WTF you took 5th in the Mr Bakersfield! THERE.........RAJJIN SAID WE COULD BE HONEST! DONT LIKE HONEST? CALL ME FOLLISTATIN16 AND WATCH MY FOLLOWING GROW LIKE A MUTHERFOKING IVY BRANCH.

 

[rAJJIN]

Yes if a Guy spent enough on himself to use 1 kit per week of hgh instead of 1 kit per month, the results would be much better.
Your wallet much thinner, but Muscles a Little bigger yes I would imagine so.

 

[rAJJIN]

The guy Must own Castles, or sell- be affiliated with sales.
Pharm grade HGH cost appx 300 for 15iu. ( I just recently bought one for the testing)

So for True USA Pharmacy HGH it would only cost 300$ per DAY to run the 15iu.

 

[Stewie]

I don't follow gh15, and I know very little about his/her methods, frankly don't care too know to be honest.

I do have a question for those that follow his advice, does he offer personal training or nutritional individualized to said person such as, Phil, Dante, Shelby, Alex A, ect....

It seems they are willing to take accountability and credit for achievements or failure for said person they work with~ yes their paid for their services, as they should be.

Does gh15 offer this? Does he/she own up for failure or just take credit because its " Biblical"

Just curious

 

[waynaferd]

Call me an asshole, but I've done advanced 5x5's, Doggcrap, FST-7, GVT, and haven't the slightest clue who anybody that "created" these workouts are...nor do I care...If I can find them on google, than that is all I need....no one to thank, no one to ask questions, just google and try out what looks interesting.

Really a simple philosophy.

 

[oreolo]

Being honest about what you take takes alot of balls, and I applaud B-BOY for doing so. I was raised to be honest, and for this reason I respect those who do the same. Bodybuilding to me never was and never will be about monetary gain. The intrinsic rewards are what it is about. I feel like a million bucks after a good workout. I feel proud when the mirror reflects positive changes from all of my hard work. One thing that never has set well with me is reading b.s. lies by those I look up to, telling me that I can look like a pro by just using some otc supplement at gnc...or, those who post that all you need is 500mg test/ 400mg eq. Yeah, right! Get da fook outta here!!!

I like this board an awful lot! Not having access to it the past 7 days really showed me how much I missed it. My cell phone couldn't access promuscle for a full week, which really sucked!

As far as, name calling...I never have understood what anyone stands to gain by doing so. Name calling makes the poster look childish...they lose intellectual credibility by doing so.

I understand, in the bodybuilding world, there is a price to pay for being too honest. But, this is my honest opinion...CALL ME ON IT IF I HAPPEN TO BE WRONG...B-BOY will get his pro card. B-BOY will get supplement contacts. And I believe he will dominate as a 210Lb class pro. Don't think I'm on his dick because I say these things. Remember, this is coming from the guy that B-BOY said has the body of a 3rd grade girl. Hahaha I'm just grateful that people like B-BOY exist; people with the integrity to tell the truth, regardless of the consequences! And for this, I respect the man!

Dude I hear what you are saying but life is not that simple. We live in a world where if you are remotely famous, you hire a publicist and an image consultant to sell you to the public in a good light.

Bboy has a duty to himself and his family. If the so-called truth can jeopardise his earnings it doesn't make sense. It's not about lying since everyone knows that pros use gear, it's about being subtle.

You are not talking about standing up for the morality of gear use, you are talking about making others feel comfy taking more gear.

He has an opportunity most steroid taking bodybuilders will never have. To bea spokesman and get paid from the sport. This is about him as a future marketable bodybuilder.

You say bodybuilding was never about the monetary gains, but I don't recall you ever saying you were offered the choice of a very lucrative pro contract.
It's kind of like wen starving mucisians who have only ever played free gigs criticise rock superstars and declare they will never sell out, they are only in it for the music. Most people have no clue how they will act when opportunity or risk is actually put in their face.

You say you value honesty. But wasn't it not too long ago where you couldn't even be honest with yourself and take a blood test. Thank God the results were not bad, but how many years did you purposely dishonestly avoid the potential truth.

Do you know the only people that can fully get away with saying what they like?

Kids

And guess what, adults socialise them into not always saying the truth. Why?

Cos people can easily give out truths, but they can't take them. They can't take the consequences of truth. Can you always tell your boss and colleagues and customers the truth?

You got a girlfriend? For one week absolutely tell her the pure unadulterated truth.

If you wanna see bboy succeed? Then understand that when he reaches ifbb, it will come with responsibility. People will hang on to his every word, like people do doctors. Like it or not he will have to be careful what and most importantly how he says it. In public, what you don't say speaks just as much as what you do. If people want to take more gear, there are other big dudes who will never break pro who can tell them..... Or better yet maybe they should try it and see.

Would you respect ronnie if he now comes out and honestly exposes gear use in law enforcement?

 

[K1]

People in general are just cattle following the herd and they need an infamous messiah to lead them to the promise land...Doesn't matter whether it is Foodfreak, Almost Pro, gh15, etc, etc, etc,...People HAVE TO have a reason or someone/something to blame when they are not achieving the goals they desire and HAVE TO have someone/something to praise, when they do finally figure out what actually worked best for them and begin achieving their goals...They always have to have a crutch to go either way, whether to blame or to praise.....

And as for anyone saying well this one and that one speaks the truth...If you have been in this game long enough, and you do not already know the truth and you actually need someone to explain to you, then you are playing the wrong game...And anyone that is new and hasn't been in the game that long, you shouldn't be following these so called "truths" anyways...So does it really matter?!

 

[raw33man]

i will say this about GH 15, his advice works, atleast for me. for years i took gear at high doses,,,trained "low voulume" not to overtrain,,,,took the supposed best supplements, etc, ate right, and looked like shit. then i started reading Gh 15 stuff,,,i threw out all my supplements in teh garbage,,,,threw out all the peptides in the garbage (they didnt do anything anyway)...and ran high dose gh,,kept my gear dose the same,,,stopped worrying about overttraining and jacked my volume 3-4x what it was,,,and followed the diet of alex who is amazing,,,the only thing i didnt follow gh15 word for word is the diet,,i stick with alex for the diet,,,and in about 4 months of using GH15 protocul of throwing suppls and peptides in teh garbage and running gear with proper timing and gh,,i have grown more than i have in the past 4 years. his stuff works,,,im usuing the same amont of AAS as i used to with low volume and supps and no gh,,,im sleeping less,,and getting bigger,,,IMO its all about the GH and gear timing,,,gh15 knows his stuff.....atleast for me. and before anyone asks,,,no i wont post pics because i couldn't care less if anyone believes me

how much GH are you taking ?

 

[b-boy]

hilarious thread!

if all this is known info then how come i dont see more physiques like

jbomb
lil savage
szona
johny smiles (from what im told)
john meadows

 

[Tyrone]

Puppets, elves LMFAO...So fuckin stupid:action-:m

 

[Jello]

hilarious thread!

if all this is known info then how come i dont see more physiques like

jbomb
lil savage
szona
johny smiles (from what im told)
john meadows

Work ethic.

 

[SL1CED]

hilarious thread!

if all this is known info then how come i dont see more physiques like

jbomb
lil savage
szona
johny smiles (from what im told)
john meadows

Not everyone can afford the drugs is the main reason. Second is probably because are not getting the right quality of drugs. Third, maybe, very rare though, that they have both the ability to afford and acquire top drugs, but don´t do it consistently.

 

[Lenny]

hilarious thread!

if all this is known info then how come i dont see more physiques like

jbomb
lil savage
szona
johny smiles (from what im told)
john meadows

Working on it, one day at a time my friend, as I know others on this board are too. And those are some freaks you listed, including you Brad. But, then again, bodybuilding and balancing play a major role in my life, I know sorry excuse, lol, but true...or maybe it is my genetics, lol. I will be honest, as of now, there are just some things that I or others will not push to far, I have climbed the ladder, but there is plenty of ladder left to climb Or maybe I am just pussy boy

I have listen over the years, with just some of the insight applied it has helped greatly.

 

[SL1CED]

GH15 did not say anything groundbreaking, we get that. You guys who stress that point is more than valid, but GH15 did not create GH15 to tell you more drugs equals a bigger bodybuilder. He created GH15 to tell you that the reason the pro is a pro is cause of the drugs. He created the GH15 alias for the exact same thought process as Big A in his So Sick of This thread.

GH15 was created to tell the truth, much like what Big A has already said. It is not the fancy supplement, but more so the exotic drugs that created the Pro. If you look around, the novice and new people think it´s the fancy supplement. There is a certain level of truth and honesty that is hidden in this bodybuilding word, he was just opening it up, much like Big A did. But GH15 goes a little overboard with his calling out of people, etc.

There is a very, very well respected PM member that I talk to on a constant basis that pretty much has stated exactly what GH15 has said. Obviously, we´ve kept our discussion to PMs only.

 

[TeknoViking]

folli16 hahahahaha omg hilariousssssssssss hahaha.

phil been really enjoying your comments lately.

 

[Massive G]

That's an insult to compare a gimmick account to BIG A.

BIG A is a real person with real experience and has walked the walk so he can talk all he wants.

Additionally BIG A doesn't go around slinging insults and slanderous comments either like this gimmick does.

BIG Difference!

Just state what you have to say with out all the fairytale bullshit of former pro, rich millionaire, secret agent decoder ring bullshit stuff...

 

[get it in ya]

i havnt been on here in months, i pop in sometimes and see drama. no doubt this is the best board and there are a ton of solid bro's here but to much drama still. i'm going back in my hole

 

[matt1164]

hilarious thread!

if all this is known info then how come i dont see more physiques like

jbomb
lil savage
szona
johny smiles (from what im told)
john meadows

because its not known.

Even guys who don't compete could benefit from gh15s program. I would have done a modified version of it,.much less dosage.

I thought this forum was uncensored so everyone has the right to say what they want. I liked reading the gh15 stuff, at least its interesting.