18 IU a day and 5g gear test and mast

Parabolic33 · Sep 22, 2023

bbxtreme said:
Great progress, but totally get where Chase is coming from.

My only critique- is that a planet fitness gym in the background @Parabolic33!?

Thanks man. Lol I’m cheap and if I can get it done, I’ll keep it cheap.

To be fair that was middle ish of my second offseason, I’m bigger now than in those pics. I was 209 ish in the linked ones and got to 218.

But it remains to be seen my legit mass stripped of all the fluff for this second bulk, I’ve never hidden the fact that was my bulked up off-season weight. I started my cut august 1st and so far going well. I’m sure I’ll post and update of the end result lol.

As you guys know I love to share, and I do get excited.

I still think 90lb in 19 months “pretty lean”, with abs, is pretty impressive based on everything I’ve seen during my Time in this space- so admittedly I do get maybe too excited sometimes. That’s fair to say.

I would actually like to see examples of how common it is, with pictures. I def don’t want “yes men” so to speak to be nice and say good job when/if what I’ve done is actually completely average and not anything of note.

Chase is way way more experienced than I am, so if he says something of advice, I’m for sure, not going to ignore that. Not even just his own personal experience, but I’m sure with the ammount of high level guys he’s helped out, the dude knows a thing or two.

So if he says my results are spectacularly average, I’m not so naive as to not Atleast consider what he says in a serious way. Im in this for the long haul and I’ve had so much success and loss in my life that nothing is going to stop me from doing this even if I have to fight my way for 5lb a year of actual mass.

bbxtreme · Sep 22, 2023

Parabolic33 said:
Thanks man. Lol I’m cheap and if I can get it done, I’ll keep it cheap.

To be fair that was middle ish of my second offseason, I’m bigger now than in those pics. I was 209 ish in the linked ones and got to 218.

But it remains to be seen my legit mass stripped of all the fluff for this second bulk, I’ve never hidden the fact that was my bulked up off-season weight. I started my cut august 1st and so far going well. I’m sure I’ll post and update of the end result lol.

As you guys know I love to share, and I do get excited.

I still think 90lb in 19 months “pretty lean”, with abs, is pretty impressive based on everything I’ve seen during my Time in this space- so admittedly I do get maybe too excited sometimes. That’s fair to say.

I would actually like to see examples of how common it is, with pictures. I def don’t want “yes men” so to speak to be nice and say good job when/if what I’ve done is actually completely average and not anything of note.

Chase is way way more experienced than I am, so if he says something of advice, I’m for sure, not going to ignore that. Not even just his own personal experience, but I’m sure with the ammount of high level guys he’s helped out, the dude knows a thing or two.

So if he says my results are spectacularly average, I’m not so naive as to not Atleast consider what he says in a serious way. Im in this for the long haul and I’ve had so much success and loss in my life that nothing is going to stop me from doing this even if I have to fight my way for 5lb a year of actual mass.

I’m glad you can take the shit. I had to say something about the planet fitness.

But in all seriousness, progress is progress so enjoy it, and that’s more than most can say on here.

Like @jaxino … we are still waiting on those pics. LOL

Enjoy the early stage big gains and progress. As you advance you work your ass off in the off season in hopes to add 5-7 pounds of true muscle mass each season if you’re lucky. Unless you’re Samson- that guy just has scary genes.

To Chase’s point- don’t stress over the little things in this phase right now. Focus on food, training and recovery. Save the tedious stuff for when you need it and have to fight to add that extra lean mass down the road. Bodybuilding is a long term play.

mexbeast · Sep 22, 2023

Parabolic33 said:
Thanks man. Lol I’m cheap and if I can get it done, I’ll keep it cheap.

To be fair that was middle ish of my second offseason, I’m bigger now than in those pics. I was 209 ish in the linked ones and got to 218.

But it remains to be seen my legit mass stripped of all the fluff for this second bulk, I’ve never hidden the fact that was my bulked up off-season weight. I started my cut august 1st and so far going well. I’m sure I’ll post and update of the end result lol.

As you guys know I love to share, and I do get excited.

I still think 90lb in 19 months “pretty lean”, with abs, is pretty impressive based on everything I’ve seen during my Time in this space- so admittedly I do get maybe too excited sometimes. That’s fair to say.

I would actually like to see examples of how common it is, with pictures. I def don’t want “yes men” so to speak to be nice and say good job when/if what I’ve done is actually completely average and not anything of note.

Chase is way way more experienced than I am, so if he says something of advice, I’m for sure, not going to ignore that. Not even just his own personal experience, but I’m sure with the ammount of high level guys he’s helped out, the dude knows a thing or two.

So if he says my results are spectacularly average, I’m not so naive as to not Atleast consider what he says in a serious way. Im in this for the long haul and I’ve had so much success and loss in my life that nothing is going to stop me from doing this even if I have to fight my way for 5lb a year of actual mass.

Man! I went from 140 to 175 in 10 years natural and from 175 to 230 in another 10 years using,. Just to give an idea of what some people go through to build amount of muscle. @Parabolic33 has accomplished way more than i did.

ChaseIrons · Sep 22, 2023

mexbeast said:
Man! I went from 140 to 175 in 10 years natural and from 175 to 230 in another 10 years using,. Just to give an idea of what some people go through to build amount of muscle. @Parabolic33 has accomplished way more than i did.

weight means nothing without pictures

ChaseIrons · Sep 22, 2023

Parabolic33 said:
I would actually like to see examples of how common it is, with pictures. I def don’t want “yes men” so to speak to be nice and say good job when/if what I’ve done is actually completely average and not anything of note.

how many 6 foot 120 pound kids in the world jumped on gear. its common fuckin sense man

Parabolic33 · Sep 22, 2023

bbxtreme said:
I’m glad you can take the shit. I had to say something about the planet fitness.

But in all seriousness, progress is progress so enjoy it, and that’s more than most can say on here.

Like @jaxino … we are still waiting on those pics. LOL

Enjoy the early stage big gains and progress. As you advance you work your ass off in the off season in hopes to add 5-7 pounds of true muscle mass each season if you’re lucky. Unless you’re Samson- that guy just has scary genes.

To Chase’s point- don’t stress over the little things in this phase right now. Focus on food, training and recovery. Save the tedious stuff for when you need it and have to fight to add that extra lean mass down the road. Bodybuilding is a long term play.

lol yea, I’m not as young as I look too, so as you get older you realize these things are just normal. It’s not like we’re all fighting over some life or death serious matter. I’m almost 31. But I get it commented that I look like I’m 23-25 even after gear. Before that I looked very young.

I just love the experimentation end of things, just to learn and as a hobby, not because I think it’s going to lead to any superior results. That would always be nice and welcome Ofcourse though. 97% of it is eating, sleeping, and training properly- combined with the basics of Test,GH and insulin. Admittedly, I used to be in medical school when I dropped out because my business I had built took off and began taking too much time to do both. That’s actually how I got so skinny, working 100-110 hour weeks for a decade straight and not eating more than once a day or twice right before bed. So this is kinda my way of getting excited and inspired about research and medicine as fucked up as it sounds lol.

Parabolic33 · Sep 22, 2023

ChaseIrons said:
weight means nothing without pictures

I can post more but I’ll probably wait till I finish this cut. Probably have another 8-10 weeks to go. Initially set out to do 16 weeks and I began August first.

We’ll see where I end up this second cut. I’ll get leaner than I did last time too.

It probably wouldn’t be worth it to post off-season/mid cut pics right ?

ChaseIrons · Sep 22, 2023

Parabolic33 said:
I can post more but I’ll probably wait till I finish this cut. Probably have another 8-10 weeks to go. Initially set out to do 16 weeks and I began August first.

We’ll see where I end up this second cut. I’ll get leaner than I did last time too.

It probably wouldn’t be worth it to post off-season/mid cut pics right ?

that comment wasnt directed at you

Ace0 · Sep 22, 2023

Flex500 said:
I think the biggest issue is he really needs to clean his place. Don't worry about the training, drugs, eating. Just clean your house first.

Didn’t realize Jordan Peterson was on this forum