YOU ARE ONE OF THE GUYS.......I MEAN, YOU DONT HANG OUT MUCH IN THE MAIN FORUM WHEN WE DISCUSS TRAINING AND YOU TRY TO REFUTE EVERY THING POSITIVE SAID ABOUT ANY LBA THREAD THERE IS EVEN THOUGH YOU NEVER TRIED THE PRODUCT, BUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING FUNNY TO SAY I SUPPOSE...........
Interesting. You know, Phil, I've given you the benefit of a doubt for a long time on this board - probably too many occasions. But this is my thread, in my forum so I'm going to tell you what I think off the main board. Yeah, I'm a bit of a joker, but laughter is good medicine. Being a bodybuilder (or whatever) myself, I know how serious a person can get. I know how much dedication it can take. I like that I give people a laugh now and then. I care about it. Sometimes I even do it at someone's expense and even my own. The lesson is, you have to laugh sometimes. Even if it's at yourself. We got a lot of big muscle on this board but we also got a lot of big egos. As you yourself has preached on more than one occasion, the necessity of living a balanced life - a life that contains more than just bodybuilding. I think that's a very important ethic and I'm so glad that someone such as yourself encourages it because you do have influence. I've started and contributed to so many threads in the main forum that every time I post, I face a dilemma. I worry that maybe I'm going too far and should perhaps, just stay here in my little counseling forum and not venture out as much. As far as training threads, not only do I contribute but I even start threads. Here's a thread I started on partials on July:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37124
Here's you in September:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38181
Obviously, yours got more attention because you're an IFBB pro and I'm just a... well, whatever the hell I am (joker, professor, whatever).
Hell, you even agreed with me in my thread as I did with you in your thread. Not everyone agrees with you and me. But partials do work, plain and simple, and I think we both want the people of the board to hear that. Phil you have 6000 posts and you're an IFBB pro. Have you written an article on training or supplements for professionalmuscle? Hell, I'm the lowly board shrink and I have!
But that's enough of that. My intention here is not to sell myself to anyone in my own forum. I have no products to sell and you are welcome to take anything I say or leave it or even tell me to go **** myself if you like. And if you want to bring LBA's to my forum, okay fine. Let's do that. Let's talk about LBA's. You shouldn't mind since it's a rare thing to find a thread of yours that doesn't come back to LBA's, SUS500, Pheramass, Cherrypharm, Tren250, your personal training services... did I leave anything out? Alrighty then.
I
have tried LBA's. I ordered enough LBA's from an online distributor in strawberry. I threw the last three bottles in the trash. Even with drinking 1/2 a bottle a day, I'm sorry, I just didn't get anything from them. Yeah, I know, I used them wrong, or didn't buy them from you, or something. But other people have offered to GIVE theirs away (and I'm not going to say who) to anyone who might want them, just as long as they paid for the shipping so it's not just me.
But let's get back to the beginning. First it was a secret ingredient, cow's blood, fetuses, IGF, GH, fractions, and AAEFX was the goods and that was that. Everything else, worthless. Anyone disputing, crushed. Now, AAEFX doesn't have enough flavors and another brand is the real goods. That's where it's at now. And every single member that has come forward saying LBA's just didn't do much for them, or even questioned what made them so special has been met with scorn, ridicule, and just outright personal attacks. What are you going to tell the soon-to-be-former member "Jon"? You remember, that guy that works for AAEFX? He was here pretending to be a member asking questions about the product while he worked for the company. I never refuted LBA's but I sure as hell refuted that guy. You do realize that once rAJ exposed that guy for a shill that the blame was headed straight at you right? I stuck my neck out and saw to it that "Jon" took the heat and not you.
I realize that what greases the gears of this board is money. I know you're marketing your products. Truthfully, I hope you do well. I'm not here to make money though. I'm here because this is leisure. Yeah, I suppose I could join an academic board and yak all day about the things I deal with every day of my life. No thanks. Health and fitness is my passion. My opinion on LBA's is what it is. I'm not alone and I'm not going to bullshit anyone about it. I've never refuted a single thing about a member's positive experience with the product. But if I want to express my own experience, than that's my right and I retain it.
You once gave an open board thread of appreciation to me and I want to return that to you right now by saying I think you're a hell of a guy Phil. I appreciate the advice you've given me over the years and I have nothing but respect for your accomplishments not just in the sport but in overcoming the difficulties of a former life that is now just a memory. I've had your back every step of the way in public and private and I'm always pulling for you and your loved ones but at this point in time, I don't really want to be associated with you. Not in any way whatsoever.
Take care of yourself and that little girl of yours.
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