10g eaa's

[Kaladryn]

If you read the study I posted, they actually took blood samples and muscle samples at time points after ingestion and found that whey protein digested faster than EEAs and caused a greater insulin response, there are some very interesting graphs at the end of that study.

To answer the OPs question, whey isolate is 50% EAAs, so 10g of whey has 5g of EAAs in it, however, this doesn't account for the superior absorption effect of whey that the study shows.

 

[Gunsmith]

If you read the study I posted, they actually took blood samples and muscle samples at time points after ingestion and found that whey protein digested faster than EEAs and caused a greater insulin response, there are some very interesting graphs at the end of that study.

To answer the OPs question, whey isolate is 50% EAAs, so 10g of whey has 5g of EAAs in it, however, this doesn't account for the superior absorption effect of whey that the study shows.

So taking in 20-25g Whey during training rather than 20-25g EAA should yield a better anabolic environment for muscle growth during and after training???

 

[heavyhitter]

So taking in 20-25g Whey during training rather than 20-25g EAA should yield a better anabolic environment for muscle growth during and after training???

Or at least the same at a much cheaper price point

 

[Kaladryn]

So taking in 20-25g Whey during training rather than 20-25g EAA should yield a better anabolic environment for muscle growth during and after training???

Perhaps, the study isn't extremely conclusive, but it certainly does seem like there isn't any clear advantage to EAAs.

I think free form aminos because popular before it was realized that we don't break protein all the way down and then absorb it, we absorb some protein chains unbroken. This is how when outperforms EAAs in that study.

 

[jeroendebleser]

The real question is....what difference does it make how many grams of protein 10 grams of eaa is equal to?

Exactly, all this micromanaging really serves no purpose in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Cinder]

It is :banghead:

There is a difference between the statement

'x grams EAAs is x gram protein'

and the statement

'x grams EAAs is equivalent (in terms of EAA content) to y grams of (Whey/Beef/whatever) protein'

The former statement is clearly wrong and the latter correct. Another thing to note though is that equivalence in terms of EAA content does not imply that both things are the same. They are only the same in this one particular characteristic. Other things like amounts of calories, effectiveness for inducing mucle protein synthesis, effect on collagen sythesis, mineral content etc., are not the same. That's why the idea of 'eqivalence in terms of EAA content' is of limited usefulness and does not imply what many people think it does.

We're talking about protein...That's all. Not calories, not minerals, not collagen synthesis, not insulin spikes, not adsorption times, ect.

What is protein? All 9 of the essential amino acids make up protein. So...when the same ratios of EAA in powder is the same as a scoop of whey (or certain amount of meat) it's the same protein content.
Whats better? Obviously food/whey.
However EAAs are the perfect choice to replace a shit ton of protein. You'll have to figure out what you're losing from its replacement though (fats,carbs,calories, peptides, blah blah)
15-20grams EAA 20minutes before each meal is my standard now. I cut the meat in half and found calories in different foods to replace what was lost. The proper way to replace is frequent dosing throughout the day, not just pre/intra.

 

[Kaladryn]

15-20grams EAA 20minutes before each meal is my standard now.

How are 100% of those EAAs not metabolized into energy?

 

[Cinder]

How are 100% of those EAAs not metabolized into energy?

Metabo what?

Jk...It's to replace protein for me. And it works.
Before it was hyped, I learned of its use in comatose
patients, people with cancer, and muscle wasting. People that could barley eat...
super drips of eaa and carbs. Kept muscle mass while being bed ridden. Or light exercise and ems machines helped build mass.

 

[juggy38]

I think 20g hydro whey+2g leucine would be the best bet.....like TNs super hydro whey

 

[OutToLunch]

I think 20g hydro whey+2g leucine would be the best bet.....like TNs super hydro whey

Or debitterized hydro