2 yrs clean and Nips bothering me already..plz help!

[scogan85]

Hey guys..I'd really appreciate any help/suggestions especially from anyone who's had the same problem... I finished a cycle of test deca and masteron like almost 2 yrs ago...did the proper pct with nolva..i think 40 for a wk and 20 for 3 wks.....anyways...I've been clean for almost 2 full yrs....

Its only been about 16 days into my present cycleI'd say...heres the cycle I'm running( low dose of test because I feared this problem and didnt want to blow up too much as well).

450 mg wk/ test enan
600mg wk primobolan
60mg day var

I have been taking a shot 3 times a wk, sun tues thurs(.6 ml of 250mg enan mixed with 2ml 100mg primo)
The food is from a good bro we all know off this board so as legit as can be. Its only the 16th day and my left nip is feeling major sensitive as well as the lump that was behind it before is feeling like its sticking out and hard already. I have Nolva on hand for PCT( should i start taking a low dose of it or what else could you suggest...Its all I have on hand) I wanted to avoid that because I heard it can hinder the gains. In only these 16 days I've gone from about 222 to 232 and that isnt even high dose of stuff like I used to do....I'm 6'2 prob about 12 percent bodyfat...I wanna keep the gains going smooth with this but i dont wanna drop out the test....what do you recommend?
I have 2 bottles of 100mg stannzoil(long acting winny from the bro) that im' gonna start about the 7 wk mark and get rid of the Var......any suggestions about anything i've said are appreciated ( I'm not even sure if i've ever posted on this board before, but I've been around on all the others since 04 and this seems to be top dawg now) thanks for ny help

 

[King-kong]

Just my opinion - 16 days is plenty enough time to raise estrogen or prolactin levels. It isnt something you want to ignore. I dont think you are taking anything that can raise prolactin levels so an AI should help. Aromasin is what I would take. Your dosages seem odd to me - not familiar with the primo ester but taking test enan 3 x a week is not any better than 3x the amount once a week.

 

[scogan85]

Oh, I know that for sure...I am only doing that because the syringes only hold 3 cc and every inject is 2.6 cc.....thats 7.8 cc of liquid a wk, so I have to break it up into 3 shots. Any other thoughts would be greatly appreciated...I"m gonna have to order either aromasin or Adex tomorrow.....should I start taking the nolva I have now?

 

[chopper81]

I would take 40-60mg nolv until the sides go away 1-3 days and then lower the dose down to 10mg ed untill your aromasin or Adex arrives i usually run 10mg nolv and 20 mg arom ed throughout my cycle i am very gyno prone.

 

[Macro]

aromasin/exemestane and possibly also need dopaminergic (pramipexole or cabergoline).

if you have pre-existing gyno, puffy nipples, libido issues or are taking medication for depression (ssri's in particular) you are more likely to need a dopaminergic in addition to your AI.

 

[Macro]

I would take 40-60mg nolv until the sides go away 1-3 days and then lower the dose down to 10mg ed untill your aromasin or Adex arrives i usually run 10mg nolv and 20 mg arom ed throughout my cycle i am very gyno prone.

if you use progestins, di-methylated steroids, 7 or 17 methylated 5-androstanes. You should not use tamoxifen, as this may exacerabate symptoms (including a notable post cycle effect on gynecomastia development, even when effective during cycle to reduce symptoms). ie so even if the tamoxifen alleviates your symptoms, usually due to igf-1 suppression but also possible erbeta antagonism, its eralpha agonism is setting the stage for later expression-- so pain and swelling reduce-- but priming and even ductal expansion continues

AI + dopaminergic (prolactin suppressors) is better for both prevention and treatment (and actually effective).

generally favor exemestane + pramipexole though cabaser (cabergoline) is equally suitable for prolactin suppression.

 

[mark123can]

try and eat as clean as possible ,this does make a differnce.

 

[Macro]

try and eat as clean as possible ,this does make a differnce.

yes, it does. avoiding large insulin spikes and running a calorie deficit are both quite helpful, as is avoiding "overheating" (as this causes prolactin spikes). However, generally those alone are not sufficient, other than to limit the extent of growth and in some cases reduce recent tissue growth (where levels of offenders have dropped low enough naturally)-- this is why in the post pubertal stage there is generally some decrease of gyno that occured then.