6 week cycles? ALL VETS PLEASE!!!

[juliuspleaser]

I did a bunch a research about how people are starting to do 6 week cycles at high dosages, and getting more gains that way because its too little time for the body to shut down completely...has anyone done this?

ive talked to my friend about it...he suggests doing the first 3 weeks with cyp, and then the last 3 week with prop because then the cyp will be gone and the prop would take over and get out faster...


and anyone a big fan of frontloading?? my friend said it was pointless? i tend to disagree because of the mathamatics behind it, but ive never done it so, if u have share ur opinion...

thanks guys

 

[Tom]

shutdown

6 weeks will shut you down. there used to be some talk of 2 week cycles using short acting gear followed by 4 weeks off and repeated for long periods. the traditional 8-12 week cycle followed by appropriate pct is the time proven best way to go.

 

[oldfella]

There are those here that advocate shorter cycles. I am not one of them.
6 weeks is not long enough.

 

[Big Bapper]

I did a bunch a research about how people are starting to do 6 week cycles at high dosages, and getting more gains that way because its too little time for the body to shut down completely...has anyone done this?

ive talked to my friend about it...he suggests doing the first 3 weeks with cyp, and then the last 3 week with prop because then the cyp will be gone and the prop would take over and get out faster...


and anyone a big fan of frontloading?? my friend said it was pointless? i tend to disagree because of the mathamatics behind it, but ive never done it so, if u have share ur opinion...

thanks guys

I ran cycles like yours for years with great sucsuss every time.

 

[jay_dub]

If 6 weeks was too little time for you to shut down then why would all the 4 week pro hormone cycles recommend pct?

6 weeks will shut you down bro.

 

[tenny]

it depends on what you call "high dosage"

 

[hawkmoon]

If 6 weeks was too little time for you to shut down then why would all the 4 week pro hormone cycles recommend pct?

6 weeks will shut you down bro.

4 weeks because legal AAS are all orals.

 

[jay_dub]

4 weeks because legal AAS are all orals.

Are you trying to say there are some injectables that dont shut you down after 4 weeks? If so, I'd be extremely interested to know.

 

[juliuspleaser]

well u know what i mean about " shut u down"...im saying 6 weeks wont be harder to recover from than a 12 weeks cycles...

anyway, keep the info coming boys lol

 

[lvcc7878]

I personally like very long cycles. I wont do a cycle less than 16 weeks with half that time off. I have even gone a whole year without coming off. Im not saying its smart but when you do 7 shows in one year like I did...you have no other choice.

 

[juliuspleaser]

well that actually brings up another question for me...how do u do that??

don't ur receptors get down regulated to the point that ur gear is ineffective...thats what ive always read, but then ive spoken to bbers that NEVER come off except a few months a year...

how do u stay on for that long???

 

[wakejump4me]

i would only use short acting esters . test prop and tren ace are good choices . no need to get 2 different tests ! why make it so complicated ? just make sure that you got your stuff in case sides , like gyno , kick in . and like it has been said before , shorter ester means that it will clear your system rather quickly which can be good if you experiencing sides that force you to stop the cycle.


wake

 

[hawkmoon]

Are you trying to say there are some injectables that dont shut you down after 4 weeks? If so, I'd be extremely interested to know.

No, not at all, just considering the potential for liver stress caused by most orals resulting in shorter usage.

 

[Quad-smack]

i would only use short acting esters . test prop and tren ace are good choices . no need to get 2 different tests ! why make it so complicated ? just make sure that you got your stuff in case sides , like gyno , kick in . and like it has been said before , shorter ester means that it will clear your system rather quickly which can be good if you experiencing sides that force you to stop the cycle.


wake

X2 - short esters R the way to go.

 

[Metal]

Im absolutley hating mine. 400mg Deca and 200mg Tren hex per week, on week 10, going for 16. Plus T3/T4 and Clen. Im dead as a soggy noodle. Wife is pissed off like you wouldnt believe. lol, not really but u know. Because " I look so good" and she wants to jump on my ride BAD!!!
Im considering calling it quits early. Its been almost 4 weeks since Ive had one.... u know.
This sucks.

Anyways, I wanted to say, for me, I started noticing the " disfunction" 4 weeks into it. By 6 weeks, completely dead. Im tempted to hit myself with a dose of Test, but I bloat like a cheesy pig with Test.

I think a few here would agree that this cut cycle im on is not advanced by any means... perhaps intermediate, dont know, but Ive never shut down like this before. Never used this much Deca either, but I got the "DD" fo sho!!

 

[tkav1980]

Im absolutley hating mine. 400mg Deca and 200mg Tren hex per week, on week 10, going for 16. Plus T3/T4 and Clen. Im dead as a soggy noodle. Wife is pissed off like you wouldnt believe. lol, not really but u know. Because " I look so good" and she wants to jump on my ride BAD!!!
Im considering calling it quits early. Its been almost 4 weeks since Ive had one.... u know.
This sucks.

Anyways, I wanted to say, for me, I started noticing the " disfunction" 4 weeks into it. By 6 weeks, completely dead. Im tempted to hit myself with a dose of Test, but I bloat like a cheesy pig with Test.

I think a few here would agree that this cut cycle im on is not advanced by any means... perhaps intermediate, dont know, but Ive never shut down like this before. Never used this much Deca either, but I got the "DD" fo sho!!

STOP THE CYCLE NOW AND GET ON SOME LOW DOSE TEST!

 

[gungalunga]

Im absolutley hating mine. 400mg Deca and 200mg Tren hex per week, on week 10, going for 16. Plus T3/T4 and Clen. Im dead as a soggy noodle. Wife is pissed off like you wouldnt believe. lol, not really but u know. Because " I look so good" and she wants to jump on my ride BAD!!!
Im considering calling it quits early. Its been almost 4 weeks since Ive had one.... u know.
This sucks.

Anyways, I wanted to say, for me, I started noticing the " disfunction" 4 weeks into it. By 6 weeks, completely dead. Im tempted to hit myself with a dose of Test, but I bloat like a cheesy pig with Test.

I think a few here would agree that this cut cycle im on is not advanced by any means... perhaps intermediate, dont know, but Ive never shut down like this before. Never used this much Deca either, but I got the "DD" fo sho!!

Wow...where to start with this one....First off, when you decided tren and deca together with no test, did you think you wouldn't have problems getting it up? Both of these compounds are known to shut you down and possibly give you problems with getting an erection unless you take some test with them. Secondly, mixing deca and tren together is creating the possibility of problems from progesterone and prolactin. If you are going to use the two together, at least have some cabergoline on hand to avoid side effects. Thirdly, if this is a cutting cycle, why did you choose deca as it is notorious for causing bloat? Nandrolone phenylprop would be a better option. I personally would prefer tren ace over tren hex for cutting too. And as previously stated, I definitely would run it with at least some low dose test to avoid the problems you are having now. Do your wife a favor for the time being and get some cialis.

 

[terryd5150]

I like long cycles with lower doses.


Slow, steady gains.

 

[full_belly]

bud most people tend to refute receptor downgrade thesedays... however i almost never gain much after 6-9 wks whether on low(300-500mg) or mod-high(1200mg approx).. for me i believe the problem is SHBG limiting free test... so even if not doin high doses DC's 4-6wks "blast" then 2 wk "hrt cruise" gives me the same result but saves me money and supps.. recently ive done test cyp eod for 10days, then deca eod for 10 days.. then 5 days letting them do their thing then test prop ed for 5 days then pct then repeat.. stranegly i grew the same as if id taken all three supps for the whole 30days.. except i only used 5ml test/5ml deca/5ml prop in 30 days.. cheap and felt healthy.....obv there many ways to go about it.. but i feel for me goin on and off is harder on my body than hrt bridging..it takes me 3-4months to recover so unless im staying off at least that long i dont see the point... bare in mind im 30 and been doin this for over 10yrs so my body prob not 100% in that dept anyway

 

[gordo14]

Receptor downgrade....

HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAH................if there was such a thing then hrt would not be sufficeint. After a year on hrt the hormones would stop working cuzz the receptors are saturated. Sounds like BS to me. People that get bigger and bigger don't seem to realize that yes its going to take more than 250 a week that you started with. It takes more hormone to sustain more muscle mass. The human body was not designed to carry around 280 pounds of muscle it will never produce enough test on its own to maintain that physique. Plain and simple. If you don't want to screw with your endocrine system then short cycles with proper pct are the way to go. If you have already screwed your self, or were naturally deficeint staying on test year around for life is what you have to do. 250mgs of test today will still be 250mmgs of test 52 weeks from now when i inject it. The receptors will still accept it. Now hrt is usually about 100-150mgs per week. And that puts most individuals at the higher end of the spectrum. If all of the sudden after a year at that dose i bump it up to 500mgs per week for say 12 weeks, i am going to see tremendous gains, just as if i was never on.