admitting to doc. of aas use ??

chris88 · Dec 1, 2007

would there ever be a situation where a person was denied coverage for a certain condition because he or she has a history of aas use? i know of the doctor/ patient confidentiality law, but insurance companies will find any way to not pay up for doctor reccomended treatments, scripts, ect. most opinions i've read by b.b. type people is to definitely fess up to the doc to aid in diagnosis/treatment. also, there is a big difference between past use and present use; i think the "present use" people find it more helpful to fess up. my opinion is to never admit to it, ever. any side effect/condition caused by aas use can happen to anyone without exogenous hormones used. it's illegal; HELLO! i don't care if it is a doctor, accountant, or lawyer, my policy would be (if i ever decided to break the law in any way) to never admit guilt. anyone have experience with this? chris

madmick · Dec 1, 2007

I had a real bad abcess in my delt like 10 years ago. There was a doctor who I would BS with in a local bar where I hung out. I told him about it and he fixed me right up. He said most doctors would have filed it in my medical records and it would have caused insurance problems later on for me.

parttimer · Dec 1, 2007

I think its the same as an aftermarket warranty. They have to show that what you did to yourself caused the illness. Since there is no documented illness directly related to juice that may be hard. If they won't pay for it then they shouldn't pay for the guy who cut his arm off with a chain saw, or fell off a ladder. Both of those were preventable by not doing them, yet the insurance company pays.

thebrick · Dec 1, 2007

Well in an ideal world you would like to think you could work closely with your physician without outside interference. And believe me, they want you to be truthful. It makes their job easier for them and better for yourself. Enter insurance companies. It completely changes the situation if you are expecting for them to cover your health expenses. AAS are illegal, so they could easily deny you coverage. So now you can't tell your doctor if it goes on your medical record. That leaves you with the unfortunate situation of possibly getting tested unnecessarily for certain unexplained conditions the doctor may find. For example, why is your RBC elevated? He will not like that. There are many possible reasons for this condition. Do you have a bone marrow disorder? The doctor orders more tests to find the cause. The answer, however, was very simple. I used anabolics, but I can't tell my physician because of the insurance issue. Now the insurance companies have incurred greater expenses for unnecessary testing. Ironic isn't it?

parttimer · Dec 1, 2007

I admitted to my doctors that I used in May of this year. That was while sitting in cardiac ICU. Figured they should know as much as they could about me. One Dr actually said that they were going to leave that out until they exhausted all other ideas. I ended up leaving with a diagnoses of idiopathic cardiomyopathy. Meaning the cause is unknown, they did not directly attribute my illness to the use of juice. I still have insurance! Now after I file for disability I'll get back to you!!

Ashop · Dec 3, 2007

chris88 said:
would there ever be a situation where a person was denied coverage for a certain condition because he or she has a history of aas use? i know of the doctor/ patient confidentiality law, but insurance companies will find any way to not pay up for doctor reccomended treatments, scripts, ect. most opinions i've read by b.b. type people is to definitely fess up to the doc to aid in diagnosis/treatment. also, there is a big difference between past use and present use; i think the "present use" people find it more helpful to fess up. my opinion is to never admit to it, ever. any side effect/condition caused by aas use can happen to anyone without exogenous hormones used. it's illegal; HELLO! i don't care if it is a doctor, accountant, or lawyer, my policy would be (if i ever decided to break the law in any way) to never admit guilt. anyone have experience with this? chris

The only concerns I would have is insurance coverage. If the insurance company see 'aas use' in your charts they could cause you problems.

nosmas · Dec 3, 2007

My doctor just reminds me that he is a "doctor" not an FBI agent. Thats good considering what I have gone to him for in the last year.

dirkmoneyshot · Dec 3, 2007

Never unless your near death....

If they file with insurance your insurance can use it against you.

For example: If you tell your doctor that that you were injecting aas and it caused an abcess that had to be taken care of it is unlikely they will terminate your insurance coverage at that time.

However done the road when you have a heart attack it could lead them to not reimburse for the services.

Chim Chim · Dec 3, 2007

If it's through your employer they can't cancel your coverage, but if you try to get insurance independently you might have issues. I'm also pretty sure that your docter doesn't release specifics, just a diagnosis to your insurance company. I believe your M.D. releases only enough info for billing purposes.

parttimer · Dec 3, 2007

It can be documented in your chart, so if the insurance co. wants your chart they will get the info in it. My use is documented in my chart. I was to the point on the table the doctor asked me if I wanted anyone called. I was so close they had the defib pads on me.

biggpoppapump · Dec 3, 2007

Be careful what you tell anyone.
A friend of mine told his doc.
The doc put it in his notes.
The docs notes were transcribed by non medical staff.
She was in the same small town and I found out.
Who else know?????

snickers · Dec 7, 2007

After I gotten blood work back that said my liver enzyems were high I told my doctor I had taken pro-hormones that you can buy anywhere over the counter..I got blood work done a month later and everything was fine. A year later I dropped my insurance for a couple months and when I signed back up I had to sign a disclamer sayin if my liver fucks up in the next year that my insurance wouldn't cover it...I later found out tha my doctor had put down/recorded that I had been using over the counter anabolic steriods???? So.....i wouldn't say shit unless you needed to/

scott123456789 · Dec 8, 2007

I would not admit it unless you are dying on the operating table and then maybe I still wouldn't. Here is why. My Wife works a large Hospital and is the person in charge of getting approvals for procedures to make sure the Hospital gets paid. She has done this for 15 years and is good at it . Almost all the Insurance companies try to deny ANY proceedure. It is like pulling teeth. They will use ANY excuse to get out paying . It is what it is. She ends up appealing to some State agency and wins every time . IT is SAD. You can go to a hospital with a legit need for help and the Insurance company will drag its heals and say :" Maybe the Cancer will clear up on its own?".
I would not tell them(doctor) anything they can use against you. It is ALL ABOUT $.