All Generic HGH from China 192? Say its not true

[Str8jacked]

It has recently been asserted in a few threads that most all generic HGH from China is 192. This fliesin the face of what has been advertised by these companies. I'm certain not to be the only one concerned. Thus, can some of the experts and companies please step up and help us out wth an answer on this.

 

[Qwert]

I'd say it's true. You see, Gensci is the only company licenced to make 191a in China & they take this VERY SERIOUSLY. Others tried to make generic 191a, but Gensci would take action & shut them down, as this disrupted their business. Gensci is a HUGE company & has a division that just tends to this particular problem full time.

 

[rAJJIN]

Im no hgh expert But I dont think thats true, Just my opinion of course.
I know Jintropin is a good hgh But I think Ive seen some lab reports that show
Other generics that are 191 also.

We could all guess and Give our opinions but who realy knows for sure ya know. Theres atleast two guys here from China I know and trust and they both will tell you there hgh is 191. I have no reason not to beleive them and based on the results Ive seen reported Guys are getting Just as good or in some cases better results then with the Jintropins.

I think the Kexing Fitropin is 192. Other then that Im not sure.
Id say send some in to be tested or Round up a few guys that have enough interest and each can chip in to Have a smaple tested.

 

[km2000]

I diagree, I know many m people who have recieved generics from china and have had better results from it than gensci. I also remember seing a lab test from San Rafael, its a company here in the states that testes gear.

 

[Jerkyboy]

where ever you saw a lab test on GH from San Rafael *** ****** is wrong and someone is lying to you.


SRCS DOES NOT and CAN NOT TEST GH or other Peptides!!

 

[rAJJIN]

Hey Jerkeyboy do you or anyone else know How or where in the Usa you can have it tetsed.... Same with IGF-lr3? Is there a place to have peptides tested?

I know Ive seen a few, some from china I couldnt understand and also
Some from here in English. Ill have to check and see where that was and If I can pull em up.

Srcs has never been able to?

 

[rAJJIN]

OK

Here is a link to the one that was posted by Bmf2 for mamta.
I beleive this is a sample mamta had tested in china on the then "brown tops"
which are Now Branded and know as Hygetropin.
Im sure MAMTA will step in here and correct me if Im wrong but thats the best I remember from memory.

**broken link removed**

 

[rAJJIN]

I think if its possable we should set up a way to have some tested at random.
The first thing we need though is a good reliable Place to have it done...If we get that far next we can set up a fund for those interested if guys wanted to chip in and find out a deffinate answer.
Im sure with all the peptide gurus and experts we have over here someone must know a way to have this stuff tested....

 

[Qwert]

Here is a link to the one that was posted by Bmf2 for mamta.
I beleive this is a sample mamta had tested in china on the then "brown tops"
which are Now Branded and know as Hygetropin.
Im sure MAMTA will step in here and correct me if Im wrong but thats the best I remember from memory.

**broken link removed**

This, in no way, is meant to disrespect mamta, but a GH assay from China has absolutely NO credibility. In China, you can fake or buy anything. You can buy a test that claims that a 20 year old male is pregnant with twins. I've found most Chinese pharmaceuticals, in general, to be underdosed, fake or something completely different than what is supposed to be in them.

 

[rAJJIN]

This, in no way, is meant to disrespect mamta, but a GH assay from China has absolutely NO credibility. In China, you can fake or buy anything. You can buy a test that claims that a 20 year old male is pregnant with twins. I've found most Chinese pharmaceuticals, in general, to be underdosed, fake or something completely different than what is supposed to be in them.

Thats true Qwert, Ill not argue with that... Thats why I go on to mention we as a group should have some done ourselves.

You do have to keep one important thing in mind though when you say that...
Thats comes straight from Mamta. A very well known source that MANY consider the very best for hgh. He has a good following and Outstanding reputation. I cant see him trying to make that up.
Its understandable to me though you or anyone else might doubt the test.

Tell me though please Qwert, how are you so certain that Gensci hgh is 191??
Have YOU had some tested or do you have something solid you can give us to take any doubts away? Or you just taking someones word for it??

 

[Qwert]

Thats true Qwert, Ill not argue with that... Thats why I go on to mention we as a group should have some done ourselves.

You do have to keep one important thing in mind though when you say that...
Thats comes straight from Mamta. A very well known source that MANY consider the very best for hgh. He has a good following and Outstanding reputation. I cant see him trying to make that up.
Its understandable to me though you or anyone else might doubt the test.

Tell me though please Qwert, how are you so certain that Gensci hgh is 191??
Have YOU had some tested or do you have something solid you can give us to take any doubts away? Or you just taking someones word for it??

I'm not saying mamta is at fault. But that was a test done for him & he doesn't even really know the validity of it. But I will say this, Mamta is a stand up honest guy & I don't doubt his integrity at all.

As for Gensci, it is the only company licencesd to make 191a in China. They're regulated & since they're a HUGE company, I can't see them making 192a, since it would get them shut down. If you have the patent/licence to make 191a, why make an inferior product? Having said that, I don't like Jins. I feel they don't have as much kick as Serno or Somas. They feel like a very weak product. I won't use them again. Same goes for their IGF.

 

[killerdice357]

Hygetropin from China is 191aa.. I have used 192aa and got a bad reaction (whelps).. I do not get this from Hygetropin

 

[km2000]

where ever you saw a lab test on GH from San Rafael *** ****** is wrong and someone is lying to you.


SRCS DOES NOT and CAN NOT TEST GH or other Peptides!!

Chill out bro, I may have seen the test from another lab. (no need for the bold print) I thought IP had his hgh tested there?

 

[Jerkyboy]

Well if you believe everything ** says or sells, then you need to do a little research.

Yeah, I think ASSABOLEX posted the fake SRCS lab tests on IP GH if I remember correctly. (their reputation in my opinion will never change..the board I mean)

and to answer the other Question, NO, SRCS has NEVER been able to test peptides. I have that information direct from the company themselves.

The only place I know that can test GH is GenSci in China. And since they produce their own peptide products, it would be anything but a fair test. Even if they did test peptides for us, and were 100% honest on the results, who is going to believe it? So you can throw the possibility of using them for this idea out the window.

So far we have not found any company in the USA who can or would be able to test peptides. We already had a big big discussion on this on OSBB a few monhts back. Mods, vets, sources were all trying to find a lab and everybody came up empty.

So for now, looks like its just going to be a guessing game. Let the Buyer Beware

 

[Matte220]

Hygetropin from China is 191aa.. I have used 192aa and got a bad reaction (whelps).. I do not get this from Hygetropin

I am using Hygetropin at 4iu/day currently and can attest IT IS REAL! I do not need it tested to tell me that my hands are falling asleep and my body is VERY full!
This G rocks!

 

[Qwert]

I am using Hygetropin at 4iu/day currently and can attest IT IS REAL! I do not need it tested to tell me that my hands are falling asleep and my body is VERY full!
This G rocks!

192 does that was well. I used 192 by mistake & it felt & did what 191 GH does. HOWEVER, after a while, you will build up antibodies that will make ANY GH use ineffective.

 

[Jerkyboy]

MATTE220-

no offense, but that doesnt mean sh*t! People (myself included) get those same sides from HORSE GH! think I am joking?

Remember that Bresa Gen brand that was going around a few years ago?

there's your answer.

 

[jig]

This thread would hold more validity if there was proof that the blues, browns were not 191AA. Until that is done it's just blah, blah, blah.

Jig

 

[DOGMA]

LOL

Well I cant verify if ALL other Generic's brands of HGH are 192 but then again Ive never seen any lab test that say one way or the other.

Qwert, I hate to beak this to you Bro, but Chinese patents and licenses dont me diddly squat over here, I say here because I am in Shanghai right now. I make my living here and have been for more than 15 yrs. I can say this for sure. One of the companys I work with have Chinese patents and were having our product knocked off right and left and we cant do anything despite our efforts in the Chinese courts. Regulations?Its not here unless your pissing off the govt in Bejieng. Also how do you know how really large Gensci is? Been there? Seen their facilty's? You cant take their word or even the quality of the website as verification of the size and market share of a CHINESE COMPANY. I see exactly this every day. I am in no way knocking Gensci, I love their product. I am just trying to bring a litle clarity to a merky environment.

 

[DOGMA]

192 does that was well. I used 192 by mistake & it felt & did what 191 GH does. HOWEVER, after a while, you will build up antibodies that will make ANY GH use ineffective.

Can you prove this?