All read: NARC!

[Big A]

beast2k that has been on this board for many years is a narc. He is openly telling everyone that he is working with LE. His first casualty was MikeS.

He was busted a few days ago and he is singing way above what he should. He is informing LE about matters that don't even pertain to his case.

Hey Pierre, do you know that the cop that's sitting next to you right now as you are reading this, even though he is friendly to your face as he hopes to advance his career, he really despises you?
All my cop mates tell me how discusting they find narcs. They despise them as much as the rest of us do, but they use them to advance their careers.

Plus have you thought about karma? Do you realise how your own life will turn out when you are destroying so many lives? With so much negative energy coming your way, I pity you, as that will be worse than any jail time.

Anyway, these are his details:

Case Information
Court System: DISTRICT COURT OF ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY - CRIMINAL SYSTEM
Case Number: 3A00163978Tracking No:000002769163
Case Type: CRIMINAL
District Code: 07Location Code:01County:ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY
Document Type: STATEMENT OF CHARGESIssued Date:07/14/2006
Case Status: ACTIVE

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Defendant Information
Defendant Name: GUMUCIO, PIERRE RAY
Race: WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex: MHeight:508Weight:Address:
City: CHURCH HILLState:MDZip Code:21623 - 0000

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Court Scheduling Information
Trial Date: 08/14/2006Trial Time:08:45 AMRoom:002
Trial Type: PRELIMINARY HEARING
Trial Location:251 ROWE BOULEVARD ANNAPOLIS 21401-1518
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Charge and Disposition Information

(Each Charge is listed separately. The disposition is listed below the Charge)

Charge No: 001Description:CDS POSS W/INT TO DIST
Statute: CR.5.602Description:CDS POSS W/INT TO DIST
Amended Date: CJIS Code:1 0233MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 07/13/2006 To: 07/13/2006 Victim Age:

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Charge No: 002Description:CDSOSSESS-NOT MARIHUANA
Statute: 27.287.(a)Description:CDSOSSESS-NOT MARIHUANA
Amended Date: CJIS Code:4 3550MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 07/13/2006 To: 07/13/2006 Victim Age:

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Related Person Information
(Each Person related to the case other than the Defendant is shown)

Name:LEDEZMA, ANNA MARIE
Connection:SURETY COMPANY

Address: 4922 MAIN ST
City: GRASONVILLEState:MDZip Code:21638

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Name:ASHBURN, OFC
Connection:COMPLAINANT/POLICE OFFICER
Agency Code: ACAgency Sub-Code:0003Officer ID:1394

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Event History Information
Event Date Comment
DOCI 07/14/2006 SC ISSUED 060714
INIT 07/14/2006 060714;00475000.00;HDOB;100; ;7027
CMIT 07/14/2006 DEFENDANT COMMITTED;060714;AAD
DCOM 07/17/2006 DEF ADVISED OF PREL HRG;DEF REQ PREL HRG
BALR 07/17/2006 060717;00050000.00;HDOB;100; ;9I1
CMIT 07/17/2006 DEFENDANT COMMITTED;060717;AAD;
BOND 07/17/2006 060717;00050000.00;PROP; ; ;100
RELS 07/17/2006 DEFENDANT RELEASED FROM COMMITMENT
DCOM 07/18/2006 RELATED CASE #1A163983
TRAN 07/18/2006 FROM:07-02 TO:07-01
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[haze324]

I hope all goes as best as possible for MikeS.

This is some fucked up news.

 

[Kahn]

Holy Shit! Anne Arundel county? Thats where I'm from. That dirty mother fucker. I guess shits changed with people around there. But by the name, he ain't one of us. Guaranteed.

 

[IronMike]

...

Rat's always get theirs. Slimiest and lowest of all breeds.

Once the cops are finishes using him, he'll not be long on a good road. IronMike

 

[woody00]

damn mikes has been around for a long time. is he ok? u know this guys ip addy to warn other websites?

 

[Steak Helmet]

I ahve to agree that LE will do anything to advance their careers...

hell why be a cop and make 28,000.00 a year when you can make a few busts become a detective and make 35,000.00(smaller cities)?

There are a few LE in my area that have their "guy" set them up on cycles, but man does that guy know once his PC comes to him and says hey if you want to be a detective, just show me you can make a couple good busts...BAM there goes you the source.

Look at one good pro from CALI I know straight from his mouth(emerald Cup), that he set up the county sherriffs with nutrition, gear, and a place to train...now those same epople raided his home. LE = NEVER TRUST they are in this game for themselves and to better their craeer.

SAD NEWS MIKE...anything we can do to help him??? donate some cash for his attorneys?? count me in for $50.00

 

[LATS]

AAAAHHHH.. THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AT WORK.. A WELL OILED MACHINE.. TAKE OUT THE GUYS WHO USE GEAR.. SOCIETY IS SAFE.. WE CAN NOT HAVE GEAR USERS RUNNING AROUND HOLDING UP THE LOCAL 7 ELEVEN TO GET THEIR FIX OF D BOL.. WE NEED GUYS LIKE MIKES BEHIND BARS.. WE NEED TO USE THE TAX PAYERS MONEY TO TAKE OUT THESE GEAR HEADS BEFORE THEY DO SOMETHING DRASTIC.. LIKE GAIN A 1/4 INCH ON THEIR BICEPS.. FORGET THE CRIMES THAT PEOPLE ARE KILLING EACH OTHER OVER.. THE ONES THAT RUIN FAMILIES.. THEY ARE TOO HARD TO PROSECUTE ANYWAY.. THOSE TESTOSTERONE LADEN JUNKIES ARE THE WORST.. I KNOW I CAN SLEEP BETTER TONIGHT KNOWING THAT TEST AND DBOL ARE OFF THE STREETS.. GUYS LIKE MIKES ARE THE ONES THAT RUIN COMMUNITIES.. SITTING THERE ALL SMUG IN THEIR HOMES EATING THEIR PROTEIN AND TAKING THEIR DBOL.. SURE THEY ARE NOT HURTING ANYONE BUT, YA JUST NEVER KNOW..

 

[Flex4777]

May all narcs, and those they "help", ROT IN HELL!!!
Peices of garbage!

 

[Juice Freak]

A MESSAGE TO LE AND TO MikeS.....

Fuck you, you piece of shits, fuck you, I fucked your mom, your sister, and your daughter. Sorry to all the other bros on the board but here is my argument. First of all to the LE.... Crack, Cocaine, Heroine any of these ring a bell, why are you wasting valuable man hours on busting bbers who want to enhance their physical appearances, ooooohhhh my God what a threat to society. Do you really think that there is some high level of dangerous orginization that is dealing these roids to us bbers, no. Simply, you fucking idiots we are selling them to ourselves. It's Bbers' helping out bbers with shit that doesn't harm anyone outside of your preconceived notions of it hurting us. Spend some time and track down some crack dealers, perhaps heroine I don't know maybe gun runners. Find "criminals" that are actually a harm to society and leave us be you fucking cowardly morons. Now to MikeS, your pansy fuck, you are scum, you never sing that's a rule and rat's will always get theres, no one will ever take you serious again, and you know your LE buddy is ready to fuck you in the ass the second you think it's safe to juice again, and you know I'm right. Grow some nuts and maybe you wouldn't need some much test. Although test is awesome, I love Steroids, mmmmmmmmm.... mm....... good. You want to go after someone that is pedelling unhealthy shit LE and the rest of you goverment croanies, try MCdonald's, Burger King, Wendies. I'm sure they cause a millions times more health issues then steroids use so fuck off... and now back to our regular programing.

 

[Big A]

A MESSAGE TO LE AND TO MikeS.....

Fuck you, you piece of shits, fuck you, I fucked your mom, your sister, and your daughter. Sorry to all the other bros on the board but here is my argument. First of all to the LE.... Crack, Cocaine, Heroine any of these ring a bell, why are you wasting valuable man hours on busting bbers who want to enhance their physical appearances, ooooohhhh my God what a threat to society. Do you really think that there is some high level of dangerous orginization that is dealing these roids to us bbers, no. Simply, you fucking idiots we are selling them to ourselves. It's Bbers' helping out bbers with shit that doesn't harm anyone outside of your preconceived notions of it hurting us. Spend some time and track down some crack dealers, perhaps heroine I don't know maybe gun runners. Find "criminals" that are actually a harm to society and leave us be you fucking cowardly morons. Now to MikeS, your pansy fuck, you are scum, you never sing that's a rule and rat's will always get theres, no one will ever take you serious again, and you know your LE buddy is ready to fuck you in the ass the second you think it's safe to juice again, and you know I'm right. Grow some nuts and maybe you wouldn't need some much test. Although test is awesome, I love Steroids, mmmmmmmmm.... mm....... good. You want to go after someone that is pedelling unhealthy shit LE and the rest of you goverment croanies, try MCdonald's, Burger King, Wendies. I'm sure they cause a millions times more health issues then steroids use so fuck off... and now back to our regular programing.

HEY! MikeS is NOT the Narc! He is the first VICTIM of the narcs!

 

[Juice Freak]

I understand that Big A, and though I have the greatest respect for you and you a help to everyone on this board so I mean no disrespect when I say this if you are a buddy of MikeS, I have no tolerance for rats and for those that offer shit up to burn others and save there own necks. Again no disrespect, but I stand with my previous statement.

 

[bigbadasian]

Reply

|--[\\\\]>--------- Yes, MikeS was the one who was ratted ON! NOT the one who ratted!

 

[JustWannaBeHuge]

Its sad news to hear this, a few years ago, my friend was about to order a nice amount of juice and he emailed two guys asking about the source, Mikes and Sup1. and both of them said no way, don't do it, something is fishy with him, and wouldn't ya know it, all hell broke lose, so they both saved my friend, not only money but possible jail time or who knows what. I have a great amount of respect for both guys.

This country is so fucking sad, don't get me wrong, my father fought for this country and I respect the men and women who fight to protect it, but the LE and politions here are destroying this country.

I live in Baltimore city, and right now, at 5:55 am on a saturday morning, I could go outside and I guarantee that I could have me any amount of crack, heroin, or any other street drug in a matter of minutes(shit I could buy it by the pound if I wanted). The war on drugs is a joke, LE knows that they'll never wipe out the drug lords, so who's an easy target?

Hey I know, the easy target is the men and women that just want to improve their bodies, for the most part they have good jobs and are good people. Let's go after the guy who wants to add another 50 lbs on his bench, chances are he has a family and he isn't going to pop out an oozy when we raid his house.

beast2k, was that his training partner? or was that a guy he went to a few contest with? just curious.

Let this be a reminder to you fellas, be picky when it comes to who you really let into your personal lives. Let's just hope that knife beast 2k stuck into Mike's back doesn't do to much damage.

 

[El Jose Cuervo]

I understand that Big A, and though I have the greatest respect for you and you a help to everyone on this board so I mean no disrespect when I say this if you are a buddy of MikeS, I have no tolerance for rats and for those that offer shit up to burn others and save there own necks. Again no disrespect, but I stand with my previous statement.

WTF bro?

Can you read? Mike S. got FUCKED by a NARC.... He is one of the most loyal and honest guys i have ever met in real life or internet. He IS NOT A RAT. He will NOT narc. This man desirves nothing but respect and your not giving it.
I am sure that what happened to Mike S and Beast2k was not via the internet because they lived very close to each other BUT.... you can be assured Beast2k will roll on these board members. I have known him for many years and i know he was into ALOT of rec drugs .... that is one reason i quit dealing with him.
So... needless to say, stay away from this fuck hole rat....if he already fucked our good friend Mike S he will for sure fuck you all.

EL Jose Cuervo

 

[big_byrd52]

since this is all coming from the board, what is going to be done about the open source posting here? will it stay pinned? might be a good idea to take it down and stay quiet for the time being. just a suggestion. be safe.

 

[tiggerizme]

This story seems to be developing around the community. Is it possible to get an IP address for the member who is working with LE Beast2k?? I'd like to cross reference that registration IP with the current member list of a few boards I Security Mod at. Thanks for any help I can get.

 

[hughesy]

I wonder if this is going to carry over to Federal level and cause the same kind of problems to east coast international mail as people on the west coast have customs??????????

 

[Maverick]

How did he get busted? I know it had to be a controlled delivery. I heard it was fom ordering IP stuff? Anybody have any info?

Mav

 

[STEVO 47]

Too close to home. Please anybody know details.

 

[allbeef]

IT IS UNFAIR IN MY OPINION

It is a little unfair to blame LE when the sh*t is dropped in their laps.

Open source posting?? Anyone who sources on the board better know how to adequately insulate themselves from anyone who scrutinizes the board. Now there may be something that rolls to the board via ratting, but that's assuming that LE has the resources and the desire to pursue it. DEA already knows who the major names are.

I am annoyed at the local involvement. I am annoyed that people who had so much to lose would be connected in a direct physical way. I know this is a reality sometime but when you start digging into these busts you see error after error ( mostly in judgement ). Don't miss the opportunity to learn something from this in your outrage: Maybe I didn't fully comprehend the information or it is inaccurate. I am not judging anyone here except if that boy ratted to the police then he was such a pussy that he couldn't even handle the arrest. The police have no authority to cut you a deal it's the prosecutor who does. There is never an honorable time to roll, but most are going to do it and you have to assume that if the odds of beating it are overwhelming the person will give something up. You just hope it is that guy who scammed them or the rec gealers. Through their lawyer of course and to the prosecutor.

That at least buys everyone some time. But the reality is you shouldn't be that vulnerable to anyone. You don't have a direct contact relationship exchanging gear and money and information with people who have criminal records. They don't have anything to negotiate with and it is not so much a question whether they will go to jail, but how long?

If you are dealing in amounts of drugs above personal use you don't have any bro's locally and nobody but your supplier gets a physical addy!!!!!!!!!!! Ever!!!!! That address the supplier has shouldn't be a box with real identification!! A picture of you dosen't get them there if you have no record. If you have a record you shouldn't be handling gear because you already used your get out of jail free card! You shouldn't be in the game if you need physicall connection with other people who are aware of what you do. You don't go meet up at the bodybuilding contests and act like you are like everybody else! You are not! And this is what happens over and over again. You retire and handle nothing more than personal and then you can be a bro in spirit and truth.

This is so basic and yet we are our own worst enemies. Or God allows protection to be removed so He can have all of us. And if it takes putting you in a jail cell to get you to call out to Him, it wouldn't surpise me if thats exactly whats going on. He loves you that much. Thats my own spin, you don't have to agree on any of this. Thats okay.

Now having said that my heart aches when I think of the mountain Mike is looking up right now. But if Mike really looks up He will see God! And with God on his side he will get through this and he will be able to look back and say
God worked it all out for good.

Many want to get angry and say we have a right to do mega doses of roids and I would support that right. But don't tell me there aren't alot of young men who will never beable to know what it would have been like if they had never taken that first tab. My friend STK comes to mind and Mike and countless others as I say this.

I think we can all agree it is the best of times and the worst of times. Maybe thats what everyone experiences in life. I don't know. I can't go back and neither can Mike or you.


Allbeef

Just an after thought. My job ( even though I self appointed myself some time ago ) is to critique busts, programs and identify areas of vulnerability or error. If you didn't know that about me go back and look at the threads of JJ and me where we bare it all. We did that in hopes of conveying as much information as we could to the most people we could in the community. One of the things we didn't really ever have coming up was a lot of succesful guys sharing their thoughts openly. I said in the above post " we are our worst enemies " and much of what I know today is from trial and error and watching others go through the same process. I will never pass up an opportunity to discuss an arrest because how will they know unless it's been said. Oh I wish I could magically make it all better, but as most anyone whos been through an arrest knows " you walk through it alone ". Thats really where you see whether all those stetements about what you will do are true. The best advice I have for someone who has the potential for an arrest is get Rick Collins Book and read what the risks are for what you are choosing to do and then if you accept the risks and stay involved then rehearse, rehearse, rehearse what your response will be to an arrest. If you are locally involved, stop the involvement if you can and if you can't you must reherse your response to an arrest with your local friend. The faith that it takes when you are both in seperate rooms being told the other one is rolling is astronominal. Now if you are a very special guy ( I think it's two in ten ) you will never roll whether your friend rolls or not. But for the majority of guys it will be little easier if you have both read the book and rehearsed ahead of time.