am I having Anaphylactic Shock ?? COULD I DIE ??

[repper]

Now and then I get a strange reaction from a shot. After anywhere from around 6 hours to 12 hours after a shot, I'll start feeling a little nauseous and cold. Over 1-3 hours later it will escalate to flu-like symptoms such as joint pain and a general achiness all over and sometimes coughing, with it usually ending with severe chills and cold sweats. It can last from several hours to about half a day. Then the entire next day, I just feel kind of "out of it" and weak in a strange way. Then by a day or two after that, I'm back to normal. The first time it happened was a few years ago, and I think it's only happened with test. It's happened under two different scenarios. First, it almost always happens if I inject 500mg or more of test in one day (especially in one shot)...but it doesn't happen as severely as under the second scenario. I got around that by just spreading out my shots. The second scenario in which it happens is only now and then, usually a glute shot, but a few times it's happened with a delt shot....even with only a single 1ml/250mg shot of test.......almost immediately after the shot (sometimes during the shot) I feel the urge to cough. Sometimes I have a short coughing fit, but then I'm fine.....but then a few hours later, the above mentioned reaction will happen. With the low dose (250mg) shot, it only happens maybe 1 out of every 10 shots....but it's starting to worry me since the last reaction I had was pretty bad as far as the chills and cold sweats went. Anyone know if maybe I'm just hitting a nerve, or it has to do with scar tissue build up, or what?? Is my body "rejecting" the juice or something like that? A friend of mine died in the middle of the night recently without warning from a health problem he had....it had no similarity my situation, but it still has me freaked out a little. Should I worry?? What the f*ck keeps happening to me??

 

[Crowler]

Do you feel like you have chills or your skin is feel like when you get the flu?
Do you notice it less if you do a glute shot than a thigh or shoulder shot?


Could be high BA content. Could be dirty gear. I would suggest filter through a .22 filter then put in oven at 250 for 1 hour cool down fairly quickly then repeat. The heat will not kill off any more bacteria than the .22 will get out but it may release some of the BA if that is the problem.


CROWLER

 

[Snarf]

It is very likely a BA reaction. I doubt it is bacterial becuase the symptoms would not resolve on their own so quickly.

The same thing used to happen to me when I was running QV 50ml Test. They jack the BA content up way high on those big bottles.

The best thing you can do is dilute your shot with sterile oil. I used to add about .5ml of oil for every ml injected and I didn't have any problems. Shooting less volume will also help (shoot 1/2 as much twice per week versus 1 big shot each week).

As soon as you start to get these symptoms, take an Advil (400-600mg). Most of the symptoms you are experiencing are due to you spiking a fever because your body is pissed off at the high BA content. The Advil will knock down your fever and you will feel a ton better.

Do not use Tylenol/acetominophen, especially if you are ony orals.

Good luck.

 

[Snarf]

Oh, and you are NOT experiencing an anaphylactic shock. The reason I know this is that you are still alive to type out a message.

 

[Magnum]

Snarf is right bro, you'll be fine. I hope Just kiddin.

 

[Fullybuilt]

Whever I do a bi/tri/shoulder/trap shot, im incrediable sore the next day. The sorness makes me feel like i've got the flu. I think that feeling is b/c our immune system is trying to fix that area of pain leaving the rest of our body weak and prone to flu's/ colds. Thats just a thought. When I do a glute or Quad shot and im not sore I usually feel better the next day.

 

[Fullybuilt]

Why advil over tylenol?? Thanks

It is very likely a BA reaction. I doubt it is bacterial becuase the symptoms would not resolve on their own so quickly.

The same thing used to happen to me when I was running QV 50ml Test. They jack the BA content up way high on those big bottles.

The best thing you can do is dilute your shot with sterile oil. I used to add about .5ml of oil for every ml injected and I didn't have any problems. Shooting less volume will also help (shoot 1/2 as much twice per week versus 1 big shot each week).

As soon as you start to get these symptoms, take an Advil (400-600mg). Most of the symptoms you are experiencing are due to you spiking a fever because your body is pissed off at the high BA content. The Advil will knock down your fever and you will feel a ton better.

Do not use Tylenol/acetominophen, especially if you are ony orals.

Good luck.

 

[dragonfire101]

Oh, and you are NOT experiencing an anaphylactic shock. The reason I know this is that you are still alive to type out a message.

Right on That



Repper,You would not be abl to breath if you were experiencing an anaphylactic shock.

Always good to keep a EpiPen around if you can get one.

 

[Fastandfurious]

First, you didn't get an alergic or anaphylactic shock.
What happens then is at first you get bright red skin with pimples all over your body.Probably get itchy too.
Then tissues around (inside) your neck start swelling and this could lead to suffocation.

In any case,any person,especially people experimenting with certain kinds of drugs (like us) should have in their disposal either a)a cortisone shot or b)an adrenaline shot.
I'd prefer the corstisone because you can go too heavy on the adrenalin and suffer the consequences (like drinking too much coffee and taking too much clen and ephedrine together).
As soon as symptoms appear the best thing to do is take the shot intramuscularly,or call 911 (they'll do the same thing+ monitor you for a few hours after that).
this would also work for most poisons,snake bites etc.

Take care.

 

[BiggerStronger]

Do you aspirate before injecting your shots?

 

[dragonfire101]

Im alergic to corstisone after recieving a shot for my knee and ha dto get rushed to the ER before I went into anaphylactic shock. It sucked. Damn face, neck and head broke out in hives and little red bumpd that looked like heat rash. I new it was the damn corstisone shot so I had a co-worker drive me to the ER as soon as it started. What sucked was the damn nurse at the ER checked me in and made me sit and wait. I told her what had happened. I was like call my doctors office I just had a cortisone shot and I could be dead in 5 min and your making me sit in the wairing area.

 

[repper]

glad to hear I won't die from it...

I can sometimes tell when I just did a shot that might lead to a reaction soon. I feel kind of a strange sting when I poke the needle in. And it's not a typical "needle pricking" pain. I don't always feel that though before the reaction happens. Sometimes if I think it might happen, or I feel it coming on, I'll take a couple of Aleve and a couple of Benadryl and I think that helps a little....but then again it could be coincidence since sometimes the reactions are worse than others on their own whether I took anything or not. As far as I can remember, it's only happened with test shots. It's happened with Sustanon, ICN Galenikas, Iranian enanthates, test-heptylate (long time ago), and various other brands. I doubt the stuff was dirty since I always use euro amps from very very respectable and reliabe sources. It happens more often with glute shots than with the delts. I haven't done quad shots in a long long time...too much scar tissue from years of poking them. My glutes and delts aren't that great as far as scar tissue goes either, but I gotta poke somewhere. That's why I thought maybe scar tissue might have something to do with it....but I guess that really wouldn't make any sense. If it was a high BA content, then I don't know why only around 1 out of 10 shots gives me a reaction when I'd be using the exact same brand, lot, etc. By the way, no, I don't aspirate before injecting. And to answer another question, I get full blown chills....my whole body shivers intensely to where I can't make it stop....my teeth even chatter like crazy. It's pretty freaky. I just have to cover up in as many blankets as I can find and turn the heat up to where it would normally be unbearable....and that stops the chills, but then the cold sweats are still there. I'm glad to know it's not anaphylactic shock, but I'd like to know what it is. It's almost enough to make me (dare I say it!?!?) stop juicing! Well, maybe just think about stopping.

 

[Fastandfurious]

Oh my,if you're alergic to cortisone this limits options quite a bit.I think many people around shouls also know or wear a tag or something because cortisone's the first line of defence for quite a few things.

Always aspirate on injections ,but i think for water solubles it's less important (not so dangerous).Anyway there's a reason the injections aren't iv and that's why you shoul get them i.m and aspirate to make sure.

Repper,try to switch things around and neve buy the stuff you react to in such a way again.a few bucks here or there aren't worth it,imo.You could be allergic to Ba or whatever.Try to find out and never use these again.Also try to get to the bottom of this as it could very well be even more serious the next time.You have to know what causes it and find a way to defend against it.To me it sounds as if an acute infection.Best of luck.

 

[kitana]

Oh, and you are NOT experiencing an anaphylactic shock. The reason I know this is that you are still alive to type out a message.

You would know if it were anaphylactic shock.

You get itchy all over, break out in massive hives and you loose your breath. That's due to the fact that your throat closes.

I agree with everyone else here though.

 

[Massive G]

Now and then I get a strange reaction from a shot. After anywhere from around 6 hours to 12 hours after a shot, I'll start feeling a little nauseous and cold. Over 1-3 hours later it will escalate to flu-like symptoms such as joint pain and a general achiness all over and sometimes coughing, with it usually ending with severe chills and cold sweats. It can last from several hours to about half a day. Then the entire next day, I just feel kind of "out of it" and weak in a strange way. Then by a day or two after that, I'm back to normal. The first time it happened was a few years ago, and I think it's only happened with test. It's happened under two different scenarios. First, it almost always happens if I inject 500mg or more of test in one day (especially in one shot)...but it doesn't happen as severely as under the second scenario. I got around that by just spreading out my shots. The second scenario in which it happens is only now and then, usually a glute shot, but a few times it's happened with a delt shot....even with only a single 1ml/250mg shot of test.......almost immediately after the shot (sometimes during the shot) I feel the urge to cough. Sometimes I have a short coughing fit, but then I'm fine.....but then a few hours later, the above mentioned reaction will happen. With the low dose (250mg) shot, it only happens maybe 1 out of every 10 shots....but it's starting to worry me since the last reaction I had was pretty bad as far as the chills and cold sweats went. Anyone know if maybe I'm just hitting a nerve, or it has to do with scar tissue build up, or what?? Is my body "rejecting" the juice or something like that? A friend of mine died in the middle of the night recently without warning from a health problem he had....it had no similarity my situation, but it still has me freaked out a little. Should I worry?? What the f*ck keeps happening to me??

You are having a combination solvent fever test flu.
you need to do the following with your gear.
Dilute it 50/50 with USP oil refilter it and bake it in the oven (@250 for 20 minutes or so) and you should be fine.
Tghe test flu also can be from endotoxins and dirty sterile gear meaning
UG gear that is "sterile" but no clean as in pharmgrade.

 

[Snarf]

You are having a combination solvent fever test flu.
you need to do the following with your gear.
Dilute it 50/50 with USP oil refilter it and bake it in the oven (@250 for 20 minutes or so) and you should be fine.
Tghe test flu also can be from endotoxins and dirty sterile gear meaning
UG gear that is "sterile" but no clean as in pharmgrade.

Massive makes a good point. There is a big difference between sterile and clean/pure.

I can make a pile of shit sterile by irradiating it but I wouldn't inject it into my body. So you can have UG gear with high BA content so that it is "sterile" or bake it to make it sterile, but that won't get out any impurities (ie dirty gear).

Filtering your gear will help but remember some contaminants are soluble, so filtering will not remove them. Filtering wil get out particulate contaminants like dead microorganisms killed by the BA.

The bottom line is that you better trust your source in providing you with quality gear.

 

[repper]

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It makes sense about the BA and test flu and stuff like that, but I just don't understand why it happens only now and then, even with the exact same gear...same brand, lot, same batch, exp, etc. I think there might be certain spots on my glutes that it happens more times than others....but that might just be coincidence, or maybe just my imagination. And to reply to a post above, I don't look at the price of it. I get good prices on the stuff so I try to get what I know to be the best stuff out there as far as reliability and reputation go. I've been on and off (mostly on) for around 9 years, and I've had everything from homemade tren to thai d's to gh/slin/t3, etc, etc....so I know a thing or two. I've done heavy bulking cycles, cutting cycles, this that and the other thing....and felt relatively fine during and after. It really sucks now that the past few years or so a single shot of 250mg test can make me feel like that. Could my body just be "tired" of the gear and in a way be trying to reject it or something like that?

 

[Snarf]

It makes sense about the BA and test flu and stuff like that, but I just don't understand why it happens only now and then, even with the exact same gear...same brand, lot, same batch, exp, etc. I think there might be certain spots on my glutes that it happens more times than others....but that might just be coincidence, or maybe just my imagination. And to reply to a post above, I don't look at the price of it. I get good prices on the stuff so I try to get what I know to be the best stuff out there as far as reliability and reputation go. I've been on and off (mostly on) for around 9 years, and I've had everything from homemade tren to thai d's to gh/slin/t3, etc, etc....so I know a thing or two. I've done heavy bulking cycles, cutting cycles, this that and the other thing....and felt relatively fine during and after. It really sucks now that the past few years or so a single shot of 250mg test can make me feel like that. Could my body just be "tired" of the gear and in a way be trying to reject it or something like that?

You know, I seemed to get these symptoms more frequently or more severely when I shot in the glutes, which up to that point is where I put the majority of my gear. I really am not sure why, but it is possible you have a little latent oil deposit built up in the area trapped by scar tissue. When you shoot there again you may be releasing some of this "old oil" or puss that your body is reacting to. This is a guess but my expereince was very similar to yours.

Since I switched gear, diluted it and changed injection sites I have not had a problem.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

another possibility

You may be having something known as a vasovagal reaction to the penetrative act of the injection. The vasovagal syncope is described:

- Vasovagal syncope is produced by a reflex that causes sudden dilation of the blood vessels in the legs, causing the blood to pool there.
Any condition that causes a bit of dehydration will make you more prone to have a syncopal episode.
- Most people will have a brief “prodrome” (i.e., a set of characteristic symptoms) that precedes the loss of consciousness. That is, there is usually a warning.
- If you lie down and elevate your legs when you experience the prodrome, you can prevent the syncopal episode.
- Patients will often have occasional periods of days or weeks in which they are particularly prone to vasovagal episodes.

• Most episodes occur while standing, occasionally sitting and almost never lying down
• Patients often describe feeling very warm and sweaty before blacking out
• Nausea and rarely vomiting can precede episodes
• Observers often describe the patients as pale (“white as a sheet”)
• Patients are usually unresponsive (“out”) for less than a minute
• Patients may have some twitching while unresponsive, but seldom shake violently, bite their tongue or lose control of bowel and bladder function. The latter are more suggestive of a primary seizure.
• After regaining consciousness, patients are usually immediately aware of their surroundings, who and where they are
• After an episode, patients often feel somewhat dizzy and report feeling tired for as much as 24 hours
• Patients that learn to recognize the warning signs can avert losing consciousness by sitting or lying down promptly.

I've seen this first hand and the person who suffers an attack can feel badly for some time and experience next-day soreness, achiness - especially in the neck.

But the other explanations (dirty gear, contaminants, disolved solids, bacteria, etc.) should NOT be discounted because they are more likely the cause of your reaction.

 

[IronMike]

lol`

Oh, and you are NOT experiencing an anaphylactic shock. The reason I know this is that you are still alive to type out a message.

Exactly what I was thinking! Tough man who lives through anaphylactic shock. IronMike