Any Insights For Me - Part 1

[xcelbeyond]

Well, I started another cycle about 2 weeks ago, after a long hiatus and had to quit already. I'm still pulling out fluid from both biceps. Some of you may remember this post, as it spells out the details: http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4423

On my first attempt on left outer biceps head - aspirated, nothing so I injected. Next day I tried same thing on right outer biceps head and aspirated fluid - injected into another site with new syringefull! I tried the left inner biceps head and aspirated fluid! Tried the right inner biceps head and aspirated fluid!

The last time I injected biceps was ~May 1, 2003. I would think this would have been plenty of time for my body to get rid of fluid?!?! Maybe not???

Any suggestions or words of wisdom?

xcel

 

[xcelbeyond]

Forgot to add this!!!

I'm also drawing this fluid out of my left quad

xcel

 

[md2b]

xcel:

This fluid (serous exudate from the sounds of it), can be from a truck load of things. Most signify some type of inflammation.

Have you noticed any acute reaction after injection? Like a small, elevated area a few centimeters in diameter with well-defined borders (may be red, might not), usually seen within 5 minutes. If so, this is a histamine response. You could try switching to betadine instead of isopropyl, or just take a bendaryl about 30 minutes before hand.

I admit that I'm ignorant in sight enhancing oils, but this could play a part as well. Depending on how long it takes your body to metabolize these, this could cause some of the intramuscular fluid that you're seeing. If you have a higher concentration of stuff outside of the vasculature, then fluid will move out into the tissues to try to equilibrate this to achieve balance.

Have you noticed any enlarged lymph nodes in your groin or underarm? If you had some infection in the muscle, it will usually be taken to the lymph nodes so that the body can begin an immune response to the offending agent. If the nodes got too big, this may impede the flow of the lymph causing fluid to leak out of the lymphatic vessels. I'm doubting this one, as they would probably be pretty painful and you would have noticed...

When was your last physical and or blood work? If you've having heart, liver, or kidney problems, any of these could cause the fluid to be present in the muscles.

This is by no means a comprehensive list, but just some of the things off the top that may be underlying your problem. I wouldn't sweat it too much if your doc ran tests on it and wasn't concerned. If something abnormal was found, appropriate action would have been taken. Good luck, bro.

 

[xcelbeyond]

Have you noticed any acute reaction after injection? Like a small, elevated area a few centimeters in diameter with well-defined borders (may be red, might not), usually seen within 5 minutes. If so, this is a histamine response. You could try switching to betadine instead of isopropyl, or just take a bendaryl about 30 minutes before hand.

Thanks for the reponse bro!

I always let the ispropyl dry as I thought it was the drying action that sterilzed. I've always thought that betadine would be a better cleaner/sterilzer.

But - I never had any of the probs you described. See my PArt 2 post about knots. These don't really happen until at least a day or two later. They're not hot and hurt like a pulled muscle - same feeling as when you get from "painful gear" but hangs around longer than I like.

xcel

 

[DamageInc]

Shit bro, what the fuck are you injecting??? Toilet water? Never heard of or seen this before. You brewing your own oils? I have been on for 7 yeas and never heard of anything like this. OUCH!

DamageInc

"When in doubt...choke em out"

 

[KaotikChem]

What color is the fluid and does it smell?