any truth to site growth from anabolics?

abolish the weak · Mar 16, 2009

I used to only a few thinks gave site growth, those being IGF, syntherol, and suspension. After speaking to a few very knowledgable guys I'm starting to think different. One guy swears that he gets site growth from prop, he told me that some guys will actually use a cc of prop and load another cc or 2 of oil with it to inject into sites. He said that some guys just inject plain old oil as a show gets closer in order to stretch muscle fascia. Now I know synthatek is the way to go, but in theory could somebody get ssome sort of growth off regular anabolics>?

lazer · Mar 16, 2009

The simple answer is no. Anything with an ester has to be seperated from that ester before it binds to cells. I do not know if test suspension does or not really, but as far as AAS go it would be the only one that could. Most of the people I have trained with have said it did not. Some guys thought/think prop does but it is just a build up of oil and scar tissue. There was a study a few years back that suggested that injections into larger muscles actually resulted in more AAS getting into the blood than site injecting into smaller ones. I can't seem to find the article anymore, not sure how reliable it was as it was a few years back now.

GoneForFuckingEver8 · Mar 16, 2009

lazer said:
There was a study a few years back that suggested that injections into larger muscles actually resulted in more AAS getting into the blood than site injecting into smaller ones.

that makes sense considering there is more blood flow into a larger muscle than a smaller one.

lazer · Mar 16, 2009

That was the gist of their findings, more blood flow, more uptake into the system.

mike036 · Mar 16, 2009

accordind to greg valentino the guy with the humongous arms he shoots large amounts of EQ and PROP into his biceps and he claims it does make the muscle larger

Researchstop · Mar 16, 2009

lazer said:
The simple answer is no. Anything with an ester has to be seperated from that ester before it binds to cells. I do not know if test suspension does or not really, but as far as AAS go it would be the only one that could. Most of the people I have trained with have said it did not. Some guys thought/think prop does but it is just a build up of oil and scar tissue. There was a study a few years back that suggested that injections into larger muscles actually resulted in more AAS getting into the blood than site injecting into smaller ones. I can't seem to find the article anymore, not sure how reliable it was as it was a few years back now.

This is the right answer. No.
Does the muscle look bigger with oil and inflammation, yes. It is growth, no.

musicmann89 · Mar 16, 2009

negative

jdchaffin · Mar 16, 2009

Researchstop said:
This is the right answer. No.
Does the muscle look bigger with oil and inflammation, yes. It is growth, no.

isn't test suspension the exception to this rule because it has no ester to remove?

Researchstop · Mar 16, 2009

jdchaffin said:
isn't test suspension the exception to this rule because it has no ester to remove?

Nope.
Testosterone increases gene activity. That in turn increases protein synthesis and you grow. You're essentially changing your genetics. This does not happen locally. It's systemic.

lazer · Mar 16, 2009

mike036 said:
accordind to greg valentino the guy with the humongous arms he shoots large amounts of EQ and PROP into his biceps and he claims it does make the muscle larger

You don't honestly think that is really muscle on him there do you? That is oil and scar tissue all the way, looks terrible. Site enhancement oil is really all that will make a specific area larger, but as it is called it is just oil and not actually larger muscles. Paul Boresen (sp and RIP) liked the oils with AAS as he thought they might stretch out the tissue to then help it grow faster but I'm not sure the science is really behind that, and empirical evidence seems to suggest it does not make any difference in the end.

JohnnyPro · Mar 17, 2009

If that were true wouldn't there be an awful lot of bodybuilders walking around with huge asses?

terryd5150 · Mar 17, 2009

JohnnyPro said:
If that were true wouldn't there be an awful lot of bodybuilders walking around with huge asses?

LOL, and if that WERE true, I'd be injecting into my dick on a regular basis!

I'm joking, before any of you smartasses get on here with that "the penis is actually comprised of a spongy tissue called the corpus cavernosa, not muscle tissue" shit....

craig3758 · Mar 17, 2009

Well primo rebuilds muscle tissue and if your poking a needle in there and ripping the muscle and then growth deca and primo are used,it seems logical that muscle growth would occur

abolish the weak · Mar 17, 2009

Forgive me for sounding naive about all of this, but why wouldn't the regular shots with oil make the fascia stretch? Is it just the ingredients in the SEO's that make them stay stretched? The only reason I'm asking this is because the couple guys who told me this are f'in huge( one being an IFBB pro) and they usually dont bullshit anyone. I'm also hearing about guys cutting their gear w/ Synthatek for sites.

Big Bapper · Mar 17, 2009

You should never inject syntherol with aas, the syntherol will bind to the anabolic and slow down the release and cause shit loads of scar tissue.

I find it funny when company's bring to the market SEOs with anabolics added. It makes no sense.