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Best shape of my life but sex drive shot to shit...

dabeast75

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Looking for some strict bro science here while awaiting test results, which unfortunately can take many weeks and I want to start at looking immediate remedies. If you feel the need to be a smart ass and just leave smart ass comments, please just dont comment at all, nobody is forcing you. :) yes its been covered a thousand times before but then again this is a board where people post stuff, not a library, right?

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I am 37 years old 5,6 tall and approx 170lbs. Roughly 10% BF, leanest I've ever been. Like I said, best shape of my life. Currently running a simple stack of 500mgs test Eth and 300mgs of Mast Eth along with 30mgs of anavar. All from reputable sources. Been on since February but have had little to no sex drive increase since the beginning. Normally i am a sex beast while on juice, can literally bang all day if I want and feel like teenager. Now I have trouble attaining erections and staying hard even while sex. its a major problem with my new girlfriend, as I am sure some of you can relate. Not running any 19NORS which I know can cause this effect. So I am stumped as to what is going on.

Run many cycles and compounds. Normally I dont need any estrogen control and my body handles the sides quite well. The only difference this time around is that I started using .5mgs of Adex from the beginning of the cycle and every 3rd day, because I noticed last year some gyno developing. (I used letro at the time to kill it, but obviously it totally killed my sex drive at the time as well). I stopped using Adex in April and switched to Exemestane because I presumed it killed my sex drive. So I started using exemestane at 6-12.5mgs a day, which I also dropped it, because after a couple of weeks my sex drive still didn't recover. I assumed that estrogen is not the problem. I have even recently added 50-100mgs of Proviron and still no notable recovery of sex drive!

Like I said, with the stack I am running I should be a horny goat, but I am not. I dont "feel" like my estro is out of control, i.e. not bloatet, no gyno flaring up, not emotional etc.

Getting blood work done but desperately need some bros to give me some ADVICE on what could be the problem, based on experience, since I am stumped as to why I have no sex drive on a simple stack.

Thoughts on what I should do:
0. Is there some key hormone I am missing that I should be looking at?
1. Up the dose of Test? Or lower it?
2. Drop the Masteron and just stick to a low dose of test?
3. Should I use clomid to help with natural test production?
4. Drop the anavar?
5. Continue using Exemestane ED until test and estrogen levels even out.

Desparate bro here hoping somebody can share some insight on what might be the problem here.
 

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Drop the var bud.

Common side effect IME


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I would just keep everything and do bloods like you want (to see things like e2,tsh,prolactin,progesterone,shbg, etc...other than that it's just guessing game with test/mast/proviron i have nonstop sex drive, lol :star-wars
 
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Exactly how long ago did you stop the aromasin? If you really crushed estrogen into the ground it can take some time to come back.

The leaner you are the less you convert to estrogen. Far far less. If I was 18 % body fat I'd need substantially more ai then if I was 6%.

Also have found myself that keeping to ed injects substantially cuts the need for an ai to begin with as blood levels are much more stable. Even with long esters.
 

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Stay on what you are using then get an extensive blood test and make the necessary changes after that.
 

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I aways lose my sexy drive when I’m sub 8% bodyfat an still dieting, don’t think it’s bloods, more my body starvin, a few days refeed an it’s back
 

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Add estrogen:D
Seriously though, this is why i don’t use AI’s unless i have gyno.
 
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Add estrogen:D
Seriously though, this is why i don’t use AI’s unless i have gyno.

Or switch your dosing protocol around a bit in order to get more amortizing activity.
Say your doing 20mg/day for 140/week...
Stay at your designed dose for the week(in this case 140mg) but move the dosing around within....
Say 60mg then 20mg then 10mg then 50mg...
The fluctuation will be detected by your body and it will respond accordingly.
Number for references only.
But again, like other members have suggested get your blood work done. The psychological impact of knowing everything is in ration and correct will get you performing again.
 

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Thanks for the advice so far guys. Some good stuff in there.

My current strategy is to obviously get the bloods done and go from there. I will also drop the var like was suggested. I think also splitting the dosages of the mast and test will be a good idea, although I am thinking about just running a low dose of test for the next few weeks. Perhaps its the masteron, since frankly the only reason I was running it was to help with the sex drive (but it made me look absolutely amazing! :D )

I will post bloods as soon as I have them but like I said, it will take a bit of time to get them.
 

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Or switch your dosing protocol around a bit in order to get more amortizing activity.
Say your doing 20mg/day for 140/week...
Stay at your designed dose for the week(in this case 140mg) but move the dosing around within....
Say 60mg then 20mg then 10mg then 50mg...
The fluctuation will be detected by your body and it will respond accordingly.
Number for references only.
But again, like other members have suggested get your blood work done. The psychological impact of knowing everything is in ration and correct will get you performing again.

Thanks for this advice. I am assuming you are referring to the AI protocol here?
 

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MASTERON has always enhanced my libido. PROVIRON for me, boosts sex drive more than anything I've tried.

Yes I've read this too, which is why I'm running BOTH but it hasn't had an impact unfortunately.
 

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Add estrogen:D
Seriously though, this is why i don’t use AI’s unless i have gyno.

Yea well my guess is not that I have low test, its probably the estrogen. doubt its progesterone or prolactin since I am not running anything along those lines, but I guess its not uncommon for some people to also have high prolactin on test??

Question. How will I be able to tell which of my hormones is high or out of whack? with the test being super high (probably) and the rest being comparatively low, how do you make the needed adjustments? can the test be high and all the other hormones should be in the normal range?
 

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I aways lose my sexy drive when I’m sub 8% bodyfat an still dieting, don’t think it’s bloods, more my body starvin, a few days refeed an it’s back



This.. after a refeed, brazzers calls me for a porn scene

Do blood work , your gear could be underdosed or non existent now that it’s been a tren to underdose n mix everything together


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This.. after a refeed, brazzers calls me for a porn scene

Do blood work , your gear could be underdosed or non existent now that it’s been a tren to underdose n mix everything together


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I wish it were that simple... but my test is human grade.
 

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So have an appointment to get my bloods done on Weds. Hopefully it will point me in the right direction.

Stupid question but since its my first time running Masteron. From reading the profile a thousand times, it is said that Masteron has anti-E properties. If my estrogen levels have already been shot to shit by using Adex for about 8 weeks, could it be that the Masteron is continuing to suppress it????

Its the best explanation I have at the moment... sorry but still stumped as to how the fuck my sex drive can be so damn low on such a "sex drive booster stack"...
 

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Thanks for this advice. I am assuming you are referring to the AI protocol here?

No, Im referring to your main Testosterone intake. Fluctuate your dosage to get it to aromatize.
 

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So have an appointment to get my bloods done on Weds. Hopefully it will point me in the right direction.

Stupid question but since its my first time running Masteron. From reading the profile a thousand times, it is said that Masteron has anti-E properties. If my estrogen levels have already been shot to shit by using Adex for about 8 weeks, could it be that the Masteron is continuing to suppress it????

Its the best explanation I have at the moment... sorry but still stumped as to how the fuck my sex drive can be so damn low on such a "sex drive booster stack"...

This is more than likely the case, but do get the blood works done. The Ai you are taking is preventing the conversion to E2, and what little E2 you may have if not totally crashed is being competed for at the receptor by the Masterone. Check your prolactins as well cause this can cause havoc on its own.
 

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If you took a bunch of stane your E2 might be crashed hard. Getting bloods asap is your best approach instead of guessing based on symptoms. Let us know your results
 

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