BIG A....SYNTHEROL AND THE HEART QUESTION.

[JETHRO TULL]

HERE IS ANOTHER SYNTHEROL QUESTION. [I SIT AND COME UP WITH GAY EXCUSES NOT TO USE MY BOTTLE....I TOOK A FEW INJECTIONS AND STOPPED...]
MY FATHER HAD A TRIPPLE BYPASS AND I AM WORRIED THAT THE [SILICA??] OR WHATEVER KEEPS THE SYNTHEROL IN THE MUSCLES LONGER THAN JUST PURE OIL, MIGHT COLLECT IN THE CORONARY ARTERIES AS WELL. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS, BIGA OR PHIL? I MIGHT BE WORRYING FOR NOTHING.

 

[Big A]

Here's pasted what is written in MIMS (the medical drug directory where every substance is listed) regarding silica. This is an independant publication, published by the medical board, so there's no partial information here from companies with financial interests:

"Silica is a mineral that is widely distributed over the Earth. It strengthens plant stalks, giving them their ability to stand upright and resist winds. Silica is also present in the human bodies, where it is involved in various processes. Silica affects many of the human body's tissues because it is needed to regulate metabolism

Silica is of particular importance for the skin and is an element in tooth enamel and in the body’s connective tissues (which support and connect the body’s organs). The most common form of connective tissue is collagen. As humans get older, the natural supply of Collagen diminishes, with the result that the skin becomes less elastic, losing its smoothness and tone, while the nails may become brittle and the hair becomes coarser and loses something of its shine

Silica in combination with Vitamin C, protein and other substances is needed to form and preserve this vital Collagen tissue. Silica thus helps to keep skin healthy and supple at the same time as strengthening hair, nails and bones. It has been used with good results to improve the complexion, brittle nails and over-dry hair"

Syntherol is made under contract by one of the largest pharmaceutical suppliers in the world. The silica in it is pharmaceutical grade, intended for human use.

 

[MikeS]

OK Jethro-I guese that means time for some big guns!

 

[JETHRO TULL]

BIG A....GREAT RESPONSE!

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I GUESS IT'S TIME TO STOP PUSSY- FOOTING AROUND.

MIKES.........LET'S ROCK BUDDY! HAHAHA.............I'LL GIVE YOU A RING TOMORROW ABOUT OUR CHRISTMAS GIFTS!

 

[MikeS]

COOL, BUDDY! At work...if I dont answer call back!

 

[Mojo Rising]

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on chads board milos is condeming its use? He says he almost died(it was published in flex a ways back) and says he now has serious blockage in his heart? How do you guys feel about that? Obviously he injected into a vein or something?

 

[Big A]

Of course he says that... no SEO in those arms of his...

Chris Clark is a good close friend of mine and Milos is his close friend. Basically what happened is that Milos hit a vein. Exact same thing would have happened to him if he would have injected any gear oil in a vein.
Tell you one thing though, must have been a large volume injection because 1 or 2 ml of oil in a vein will give you a sick coughing fit until you clear the oil, but nothing more. For what he experienced, that would have been a big injection - all assumption of course.
Also, it could have been that he went to the hospital because he never injected any oil in a vein before and the coughing fit/hardness of breathing might have made him panic (it is a very scary experience the first time).

 

[BALDNAZI]

yep.....

I had that whole dizzy,coughing, am I about to die feeling once,and it scares the shit out of you.Aspirate aspirate aspirate!!!!!!!!And try to keep that pin steady,you tend to move during an injection and this minute movement is enough for you enter and inject into a vein.You will know when you do it,trust me....

 

[Mr_Magoo]

i know the feeling and ur constantly wondering when ull stop fuckin coughing, u cant control it at all or at least thats how it was with me

 

[henry]

Of course he says that... no SEO in those arms of his...

Chris Clark is a good close friend of mine and Milos is his close friend. Basically what happened is that Milos hit a vein. Exact same thing would have happened to him if he would have injected any gear oil in a vein.
Tell you one thing though, must have been a large volume injection because 1 or 2 ml of oil in a vein will give you a sick coughing fit until you clear the oil, but nothing more.

I strongly disagee. A guy I know, has died injecting testoviron depot in the quad (hitting a vein)!!!

 

[Big A]

I strongly disagee. A guy I know, has died injecting testoviron depot in the quad (hitting a vein)!!!

I am not saying that oil in a vein won't kill you. But the volume matters. Air in a vein will kill you before oil in a vein will, and you need at least 3ml of air to die.

 

[NY Muscle]

Funny I just had this discussion with my Dr who is a dr to the pros and writes for a few top magazines... he told me that the huge risk is the oil getting into the bloodstream via hitting a vein.. so i asked him why is it any different than just any oil like prop, test, eq, etc, and he told me its the chemical makeup of the oil, AAS oil apparently is different than SEO oils as the SEOs can cause serious problems if you hit a vein where as the AAS wont.. he also told me the oil will eventually dissipate in 2 yrs time.. not sure what that would lead to but by that time you should have just muscle and scar tissue and not oil stuck in your arms and producing the size.

this is the ONLY thing holding me back from using SEO's.

 

[Big A]

he also told me the oil will eventually dissipate in 2 yrs time..

That's a falacy. People that would be doing it wrong would get lots of scar tissue. THAT would take years to dissapear.
SEO's dissipate within months. Proven over and over by x-rays.

 

[NY Muscle]

That's a falacy. People that would be doing it wrong would get lots of scar tissue. THAT would take years to dissapear.
SEO's dissipate within months. Proven over and over by x-rays.

Sounds like a valid point as far as the SEO's dissipating but there has to be scar tissue development I mean i have a little and hardly ever do bicep shots, my ART specialist is breaking up the scar tissue but all those repetetive shots in the bis from the SEO's are gonna cause scar tissue, I have it in my delts and to be honest it looks good but in the biceps IMHO its not that good of a thing becuase I get sharp pain and uncomfortable feeling once in a while when I curl, thats some thing you wont feel on and outer delt where the motion and # of muscle or parts of a muscle are not a big concern but the bicep with the different part of the bicep, having scar tissue there isnt a good thing and even with all the massagng most of if cannot be avoided.

as per your statement that people doing it only develop scar tissue I have to disagree since i have tons of it in my glutes as well as outer front delts and i massage the living shit out of my muscles when i hit them ever since day one that i began doing juice.

 

[Big A]

Well, when injecting VERY slowly, massaging the hell out of it after the shot, then doing a couple of very high rep sets ad stratching and massaging throughout the day, scar tissue buildup is non existent. Ask anyone on this board that's been using SEO's in this fashion. They all have soft muscles and no lump of oil or scar tissue build up.