Bloodwork - high ALT and AP levels

[insaned]

Recently I've got my bloodwork done, and i'vr got an ALT of 89 and alkaline phosphatase of 196.. since then in about 3 weeks i've repeated and after again 3 more i repeated! they remained about the same, ALT even increased a bit from 68 to 89..
I've always took only a day off before doing them!
I'm NO drinker.

Is this to care about? I know that gym workouts may elevate some levels... altough some of my parteners eat about the same percentages of macronutrients as me and train about the same and no elevated vaues at all...

Anyone in the same situation?
I wanted to start a cycle but I'm hanging it because of this........

feedback please...
thks

 

[Magnum]

I see this happen over and over. First, liver enzymes can be eleveated up to 4 times normal from muscle breakdown alone for up to 48 hours. You need to wait a week and get them done again. DO NOT lift during this time. Also, DO NOT take any kind of meds during this time that you don't need, Tylenol being the main one as it can really stress the liver. There are a lot more OTC meds that people use that stress the liver far greater than steroids, but don't count on your Dr. to let you know this. Good luck.

 

[cryptasm]

What else could you be taking to have those values that high?? Alt normal ranges on my records are between 2-60 so 89 is slightly high but not way otta wack, alkaline phos ranges are 20-125, yours at 196 is again high.. but those normal ranges are done on a bell curve so slighlty higher doesnt mean your liver is about to fail, but if you are not a drinker there must be something else that is causing your liver to be damaged...Think about it..what else are you taking in the form of suplements or OTC drugs, rec drugs, tylenol??
As far as a cycle goes test, deca, EQ are all easy on the liver..stay off orals if you decide to gear up..as far as getting your levels down..do this..
2 quarts dandiion tea per day
get a good Milk Thistle pill I like maximum milk thistle it has a better form of the sylmaryn compound that works better than just plain milk thistle if you want to know where to get it PM me...
also Liv52 is good, also check out synthtek they have a liver aide thats great...not that you need all of these but look at them all..
But make sure you do the dandilion tea..its the best thing for starters..it will feed your liver and remove the offending compounds from your blood
Do this for two weeks you should be normal...
If you cant figure out any reasons why you are elavated....Ask the doc if you should look into it futher and what he thinks...not that he can help your liver but he may be able to find out whats causing the higher levels.
Right now I am fighing off Hepatitis C, and these are some of the things I do in my battle to remove it from my body..my levels are always on the money...
Good Luck...feel free to contact me with any questions I'm glad to help..

 

[xcelbeyond]

See post #3 at http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11044

 

[insaned]

thks for the replys guys!

I forgot to mention, all my other levels are ok.. all bilirrubins..GGT..everything!
I'm waiting for hepatitis blood check, but i'm almost sure there's no prob about it!

I discussed about the values with the doctor and he said that it might be from workout...but we never know... also said to lower the protein intake, that it's about 2gr\lb - i don't think that's mutch about it because Urea is within normal ranges.. but....
Honestly i dunno what can be causing this... i'm no drinker, nor i took any kind of drug before bloodwork.. and my food remains about the same all the time!


The thing is i wasn't mutch into leaving the gym for about a week just to do bloodwork... but it seems that I'll have to do that to check...

cryptasm,
thks for the tips! I'll try that.
and hope you improve soon. all the best bro

xcelbeyond,
I have read that before but it didn't mention about alkaline Phosph so I opened another thread since most of guys have it within normal ranges...

I wanted to start the cycle this week, i have all stuff brewed here.. test e, test prop and bold und.. just waiting! but since this values remain the same I'm not sure if i should do it or not...

what do you think?Should I risk it?
If the values go trough the roof i stop the cycle immediatly anyway. I'm getting impacient because the cycle supposedlly was to start in early november, but health is first. the thing is that these values do not drop and my cycle is always beeing scheduled for later!

 

[cryptasm]

If it were me I'd blast off, i dont see any orals in your plans, unless youre planning on insane dosages I wouldn't sweat it. Drink the tea, and protect your liver with wichever options you choose to use..everything you listed is very mild on the liver, you shouldnt have any problems..I can't see anything youre using compounding the problem..
Good Luck,
and as far as I go I'm not lettin this hep get to me..its a minor issue for the time being till my body fights it off just a matter of time... Thx
keep us updated if you have any issues

 

[insaned]

It's just a basic cycle, 500 test 500bold for 12 weeks with prop frontload!
No orals, only letrozole!
Anyway I'll wait a few more day's before doing it...
I'll try to do one more bloodwork done but his time I'll stop 4 days of gym and high protien levels! so let's see what this would change...

Can you name the specie of the tea? I can't find the name of it in my native language!

how you caught that hep? if u don't mind asking. If i'm getting to mutch into it skip it.

hope you got better, that is sucessefully recoverable and usind the rights meds and doc's you'll be fine!
You still running any cicle along with the hep?


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[cryptasm]

Botanical: Taraxacum officinale (Dandilion Root)
This is excellent for your liver!!
I don't know how I got it, did alot of crazy shit when I was young, so I suppose it came from a wild lifestyle in the 80's....Anyway I won't use the traditional drugs that are reccomended by the American Pharm Comapanies because they are only for profit and they dont work..I don't trust Dr's...all they do is cause more problems with their drugs...because they don't work, so I use natural products only..The American Mediacal establishment and FDA is run by the Pharmacutical companies and to put it simply, they are interested in profit not the health of our contry..I better stop before I go on a tangent!!!
I am going to start IV Vit C and h202 IV(hyrogen peroxide) pretty soon, those should go a long way in cureing it or at least make me undetectable..
As far as AAS goes, yes I use..but no orals...I also dont use very High doseages..800-900mgs tops... and I saty away from anything toxic..I stick to test , deca, and Eq..I have no probs at all...
If you have problems finding it I can give you the place I get mine from..I would assume they ship intl.
Thx