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*Board Rules - Everyone Read*

xcelbeyond

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Here are the Rules in black and white:

1) NO SOURCE POSTING. Do not post a source or tell people to e-mail you for a source. That post will be deleted as it endangers the existence of this board, the source, and you.

2) Do not post ASKING for a source. This is for your protection as much as the sources. Unfortunately, there are many unscrupulous Scammers that are looking for bros that are “asking for it” and your e-mail will be full of these Scams.

3) NO flaming or threatening another bro and it will not be tolerated. A mod will delete your post and give you a warning. If you really have a problem with something that was posted, send that member a PM or email. DO NOT air dirty laundry in a post.

4) This is a board where we discuss hardcore bodybuilding and hypothetical aids such as AAS, GH, Insulin, etc. We DO NOT DISCUSS anything about Recreational Drugs.

5) Read numbers 10, 11, and 12 this post: http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...p?threadid=411 This board is mainly comprised of "ELITE" bodybuilders - many top-level national competitors and even several IFBB Pros (just check out http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...une=&forumid=4 as the proof is in the pudding!). We aren't saying don't ask questions, just put some thought and effort into your questions. Post your questions in the Beginner's Forum if you're unsure.

6) Do not post a web site or store where someone can purchase something that any of the board sponsors sells. Those references will be deleted.

7) Do not use PM (on this or any board) to discuss sources or any "private" subjects. PM is not secure messaging! So - keep those discussions to "secure" e-mails.

8) I suggest hanging around the board for a while before you even e-mail anybody. Everyone has a lot to lose in this game and discretion is always necessary. Give the other bros and bras a chance to know you first. Always use your “board handle” in correspondence. If Joe Smith e-mails me and his board handle is ImaBigOne but doesn't tell me, I have no idea who he is!

9) This site has a good Search Engine. I always try and find the answers to my questions at a site by using the Search first - I recommend you do the same.

10) Do not ask us to set up a cycle for you. We do not know enough particulars about you, your activity level, body composition, or nutritional and rest habits to give you adequate advise. DO THE RESEARCH, then post your proposed cycle and let us critique it.

11) No advertising, legal or otherwise, allowed anywhere on the board, for ANYTHING, bodybuilding related or not, unless it is one of the paid sponsors or is approved by Big A first!

12) When members post photos, if you do not have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all! Critique ONLY if the member posting the photos has asked so!

13) No political, religious or economic talk allowed. If you wish to discuss those topics, please go to www.discussworldissues.com

14) Please check the laws of your country before you order any sponsor products. The onus is on the buyer, and the sponsor or ProfessionalMuscle.com will not be responsible in any way if you break the laws of where you live.
The sponsors are legitimate legal companies in their own countries and they do not break any laws where they operate. That is why they can advertise here.
You cannot discuss openly a sponsors products or ask a sponsor about shipping methods or if they can get you certain products on the open board.
if you need to know what a sponsor carries or how they ship, go to their website or email them.

15) Members can only post in the sponsor threads if they have minimum 50 posts. Any posts from members that do not meet this criteria, will be erased and the member will get a 3 day ban.

16) If you are in a country where it is illegal to purchase products from a board sponsor, and you have an issue with your order, DO NOT ask for help from a moderator of the board, as you will be asking the mod to help you in breaking the law. Any such requests will simply be ignored.

17) There is to be no links posted on the site to illegal copyright sites or content. Any such links will be immediately erased and the member posibbly banned.

18) no porn in avatars or anywhere else on the site

19) Only sponsors and their direct staff can have banners in their sigs.
Too many members wanting to rep for free gear and because of the price of product, sponsors are willing to build up a large gang to run interference for them! Sponsors should be doing their own rep work, as these reps they have do not have access to the cores and do not know anything of the business, and therefore cannot handle any board complaints...The only thing they can do is bump threads (only because they are receiving free product). This is the same thing a loyal customer can do.

20) Sponsors and Members - no prices, product details or shipping details!

21) Members must reach 50 posts before they earn the privilege to post in the restricted forums. The posts must be of a high quality standard as deemed by the mods. Any mod at his own discretion can ban a member deemed to be post whoring trying to reach the 50 post count.

22) Keep signatures to unobtrusive text unless you are board staff, a sponsor, a sponsor representative, or a board supporter. Keep avatars within reason. No pornographic or obscene images or images of recreational drug behavior are tolerated. Sponsors and their reps cannot have banners in their signatures that are larger than the banner they pay for to advertise on the board.

23)"Rules For The Counselling Forum":

a)The Counselling Forum rules do not nullify any existing Professionalmuscle rules. Additionally, all of the main forum's rules of Professionalmuscle still apply to the Counselling Forum. In addition to the standard forum rules, the following additional rules will apply both forwardly and retroactively as the case may be, inside the Counselling Forum:

b) Since the possibility exists of severe harm to an individual's mental (or other) health, any moderator can, at his or her discretion, temporarily or permanently terminate membership immediately and without warning and without regard to any status of the member.

c) The Counselling Forum should never be used to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any posts, threads, or questions related to these actions will be removed or locked. This is not an arguable point and any action on the part of a member to disrupt the forum can have his/her membership revoked temporarily or permanently at the moderators' discretion.

d) Discussing drugs and/or drug-related therapies is prohibited. A member may already be in treatment and/or receiving treatment and such discussion could cause a disruption in treatment and possible irreparable harm to a fellow member. Be extremely cautious in this area. Medications should be discussed with a doctor or other licensed professional only, not in the Counselling Forum.

e) No medical advice will be given in any way whatsoever other than to direct an individual to a professional, and if a professional is not available, to call the nearest emergency response centre for emergency care.

f) Be nice to one another. Any responses that contain vitriol or otherwise harsh words or phrases can worsen another member's situation to a great degree. Special care must be taken to be a friend to a member's situation in their time of need. Harsh words and language in the Counselling Forum can result in your membership being temporarily or permanently revoked.

g) Be tolerant at all times. Any posts deemed to be prejudicial or hateful to any gender, race, creed, financial status, religion, sexual orientation, or any other specific group will be deleted immediately and if necessary, possible further action in regards to the offender's membership.

h) Lastly, the Counselling Forum is not to be used by new members to increase their post count. Any appearance of "post whoring" will not be tolerated, the posts will be removed, and you may be subject to membership suspension or elimination.

i) These rules have been approved of and by the board administrators and the owner and are not open to debate. We are all here to help one another in a friendly way. Be a friend and feel free to offer friendly advice in regards to another member's predicament. If you feel that the member has asked a question that is beyond the scope of friendly advice, please contact a moderator or direct them to a professional to receive proper treatment as indicated above.

j) Summary of rules is simple and direct. Be kind and caring to one another. This forum is to remain a haven for members to come and discuss the ordinary problems of everyday life. In order for a forum of this kind to be successful, an individual must be safe from harsh and hurtful responses from other members. Please be kind and keep each other safe from harm. You have that power. Use it responsibly.


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ProfessionalMuscle.com DOES NOT condone illegal activity, so if you wish to break the laws in your country, then it is your responsability.

If any of your questions are such as those mentioned above, it may be either locked up (so you can see that we don't tolerate this here) OR simply deleted. If you want to make a stink about this, simply find another board that tolerates this before you get banned.

Understand we are trying to insure the safety and enjoyment of EVERYONE involved and appreciate your cooperation. If you have any further questions, please feel free to PM or e-mail a mod.

If you wish to discuss the rules, you can do so in this thread:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409
 

buffman4

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xcelbeyond

i believe we need a little clarification on a couple of issues so nobody can ever claim they misunderstood the board rules.

first of all when you state there will be no threats directed at mods or members, what do you consider threatening? if someone was to say in a joking manner they were going to blowup someone's house and screw their dog, would that fall under the no threats rule? what if someone said to a mod" either you give me a source's name or i'll make a large cash deposit into your personal checking account". would that be a threat even though the supposed threat was actually something good. what if someone threatens someone or at least the person perceives it as a threat and then responds to the alleged threat with a response which is considered threatening only to let the person who lodged the initial threat know that threats that are considered or perceived as threatening will not be tolerated?

what are recreational drugs? do we not discuss drugs that we consider recreational or do we not discuss drugs you consider recreational. if the latter is correct than how do we know which drugs you deem recreational? just to eliminate any potential problems you might want to list all the drugs using a current edition of the PDR that you consider recreational and would prefer we don't discuss. what if a member has glucoma and has a prescription for marijuana? would that person be able to discuss smoking weed even though we might consider smoking weed as recreational, but he smokes it for medicinal reasons? would viagra be considered recreational? BILL
 

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buffman4

You must be a lawyer :D

I believe we'll ALL know when a "threatening" statement has been made towards another.

Anyone wanting to talk about how weed has relieved their glaucoma should go to a board where they discuss those psuedo-medical issues, not here.

Viagra, Cialas and such are considered "specific" ancillaries to our sport, are they not? So their discussion about hypothetical use would be appropriate.

And I thought I only had to do this with the lawyers at work - j/k bro!

xcelbeyond
 

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one point that i would like to rehash is the "asking for a source" type e mails that i have gotten lately. guys, please do not take offense when we can not recommend a source. it is the policy of this board to not recommend anyone. it is for everyones own safety. remember that the monitors do not know everyone that posts. so we can not recommend anyone to someone who e mails us out of the blue asking for help. not because we are trying to be jerks but, we have a obligation to protect the board first. there is a lot of b.s. going on out there nowadays, the last thing we want is for anyone to get"hurt"....
 

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xcelbeyond

i totally agree that threats and rec. drug talk do not belong here.

now is there a zero tolerance rule concerning these 2 taboo topics or are there extenuating circumstances that would permit a member to violate the rule without suffering the wrath? hypothetically if lets say hyper contacts me and says he will tell all the sources i'm a scammer unless i come on the board and openingly threaten someone and essentially violate the xcelbeyond ordinance. would i still be held accountable for such a breach even though i was coerced and did it unwillingly? if so, how would i prove i was coerced?

what if a member suffers from tourets(sp?) syndrome and blurts out threats on the open board? what if a member is involuntarily put under a hypnotic trance whereby they're given a special word that will trigger them into openly posting sources against their free will? what happens if someone breaks into my office and uses my computer to threaten someone using my name and everyone thinks it's me when actually it's not? what if i post a non-threatening thread, but a mod. with the ability to change the wording makes my post seem threatening only to get me in trouble? what if i'm contacted by the government whereby they ask me to post a source and tell me because of national security i cannot under any circumstances tell anyone about their involvement or democracy will crumble and osama bin laden will continue with further terroristic strikes killing or endangering more americans? BILL
 

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buffman4

Not sure if you're joking or not so I'll respond for those new to the board scene. This will give everyone an idea on what my perspective, expectations and tolerance.

I'll use the analogy of baseball with action taken for threats. Now, there are different "degrees" of threats as buff has so eloquently stated. Say someone calls you an **** head and big ******* as**ole, well - I'll delete that comment and let the member know that's strike one. Just like baseball, three strikes and your out!

If the threat is even more harsh/threatening that could warrant two strikes. If threats are extreme - that's just like hitting the umpire - automatic ejection!

A member suffering from tourets(sp?) syndrome need to learn to control his posts just like those on high doses of fina, test or halos. Buffman - What are you doing checking this board at work (j/k bro)!

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you're not sure if i'm joking? LOL c'mon do you really think anyone including myself could be that stupid and/or naive? HA HA

yes i am checking the board at the office. i have three screens in front of me and one is dedicated to acting like an idiot so i can balance out the fact i have to be serious on the other two. it's a really funny thing but clients don't seem to receptive to my humor when they've retained me to get the IRS off their ass and to get all their assets unfrozen. LOL BILL
 

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Thanks for clearing that up buff! :D

Gotta go now - gotta get to the highway and beat those damn bums to the cans (god is good to us in this part of the world - we get money for recyling cans and bottles!)

xcelbeyond
 

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one more thing

If your low carbing restrict your posts to carb days.. :) I think this would stop some of the less constructive posts at least for me :)
 

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Re: *Board Rules - Please Read*

Roger that.


xcelbeyond said:
Here’s the Rules in black and white –

1) NO SOURCE POSTING. Do not post a source or tell people to e-mail you for a source. That post will be deleted as it endangers the existence of this board, the source, and you.

2) Do not post ASKING for a source. This is for your protection as much as the sources. Unfortunately, there are many unscrupulous Scammers that are looking for bros that are “asking for it” and your e-mail will be full of these Scams.

3) NO flaming or threatening another bro and it will not be tolerated. A mod will delete your post and give you a warning. Now that Big A has taught me how to perform the “admin functions” of the board, I’ll be on the hunt. :D (I would’ve cut-off the “To Grape Ape” thread if I had known how to do it!).

4) This is a board where we discuss hardcore bodybuilding and hypothetical aids such as AAS, GH, Insulin, etc. We DO NOT DISCUSS anything about Recreational Drugs.

Other Suggestions -

~ Do not use PM (on this or any board) to discuss sources or any "private" subjects. PM is not secure messaging! So - keep those discussions to "secure" e-mails.

~ I suggest hanging around the board for a while before you even e-mail anybody. Everyone has a lot to lose in this game and discretion is always necessary. Give the other bros and bras a chance to know you first. Always use your “board handle” in correspondence. If Joe Smith e-mails me and his board handle is ImaBigOne but doesn't tell me, I have no idea who he is!

~ This site has a good Search Engine. I always try and find the answers to my questions at a site by using the Search first - I recommend you do the same.

Understand we are trying to insure the safety and enjoyment of EVERYONE involved and appreciate your cooperation. If you have any further questions, please feel free to e-mail a mod.

xcelbeyond
 

Grape Ape

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tourets syndrome....lmao......uh-ohhhh....seizure....coming.....on......coc* sucker muther fu**** son of a bi***.....lol :D Seriously though, these are the rules that all of the great boards, past and present usually live by! I know that when I was a mod over at the Gade, we stuck to the same guns and it worked well, same at the old UG and Bolex...at the same time, there are a lot of great guys here that are always helpful in many ways and have excellent advice in just about all areas of bb'ing ;)
 

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thnx bro!

but i don't understand why there are still so many guys showing the infos of source.

who knows?
 

xcelbeyond

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This shouldn't be happening. PM me with a specific example.
 

Russia's Red Maffia

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What can we discuss?

Seems so far the messages are restricted to not talking about much. I am a new member learning the rules. Could I recommend a good book written by the most sought after attorney in the HGH and steroid field. It could help out and clear up misconceptions about the laws regarding these issues and it talks about each state individually. Anyway, let me know if I could share this good book. Thanks.
 

Titan1969

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Sponsor that I cannot plug?

One of the board sponsors doesnt have a thread so I tried to plug his good service with a thread. I named the sponsor but not the items, location, names, or dates, etc...it got deleted.

What have I violated?
 

Sesshomaru

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Seems so far the messages are restricted to not talking about much. I am a new member learning the rules. Could I recommend a good book written by the most sought after attorney in the HGH and steroid field. It could help out and clear up misconceptions about the laws regarding these issues and it talks about each state individually. Anyway, let me know if I could share this good book. Thanks.
Books are not drugs, so its ok. If someone needs the info, post it but dont be like 'hey for 19.99 you too can get blah blah blah."
 

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6) Do not post a web site or store where someone can purchase something that any of the board sponsors sells. Those references will be deleted.
Anything wrong with suggesting a better alternative to a sponsor's product?

We dont want ProM to turn into EliteFit, all they do is push their own products and claim its better then anything else. if you disagree you get "band" lmao
 
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Rule 15 Cheers for a Sponsor

I got great service from a sponsor who requested that I post my experience with its service and support. I would like to do that but under Rule 15 I have not been a member here long enough and do not yet have enough posts to do that. I was wondering what is the purpose of Rule 15 and if there are any exceptions to it?
 

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I got great service from a sponsor who requested that I post my experience with its service and support. I would like to do that but under Rule 15 I have not been a member here long enough and do not yet have enough posts to do that. I was wondering what is the purpose of Rule 15 and if there are any exceptions to it?
The purpose of rule 15 is to weed out newbies that cant' be bothered reading the rules and post stupid shit in sponsor's threads. So there are no arguments, there are no exceptions.
 

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