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Bodybuilder on hCG almost loses last testicle

Hi bros
http://www.ergo-log.com/hcg.html

can you check it out?

Coz i don't understand that using hcg is good or bad.

Can you reply after read?
THanks

It basically said that the hcg was mimicking the symptoms of an abnormal precancerous testicle. The doctors would have taken the last one except the BB said he was taking the hcg then it all made sense to the docs so he was able to keep his last testicle.

I don't believe the article is saying that hcg is good or bad just that it can confuse test results. Take anything with caution.

I've read that high doses of HCG can reduce leydig cell sensitivity so in that respect it's bad.
 
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I've read that high doses of HCG can reduce leydig cell sensitivity so in that respect it's bad.

I'm pretty sure you've got that backwards bro.

I think the study you are referring to showed desensitization to HCG NOT sensitization.

If HCG sensitized the testes, after PCT when the HPTA came back into ballance, the over sensitive testes would pump out huge natty test. (probably a good thing)

Anyway, the study showed that desensitization occurred with huge doses given over extended periods of time. This doesn't compare to the relatively tiny doses male BBers use while on cycle.

Also, I read that a TINY dose of Clomid (5-10mg approx) concurrent to HCG use has been show to reduce testicular desensitization. This means that the clomid can be used on cycle, but in tiny doses. The dose size would increase dramatically in PCT.

Good old clomid, ya just gotta love it!...
 
I'm pretty sure you've got that backwards bro.

I think the study you are referring to showed desensitization to HCG NOT sensitization.

If HCG sensitized the testes, after PCT when the HPTA came back into ballance, the over sensitive testes would pump out huge natty test. (probably a good thing)

Anyway, the study showed that desensitization occurred with huge doses given over extended periods of time. This doesn't compare to the relatively tiny doses male BBers use while on cycle.

Also, I read that a TINY dose of Clomid (5-10mg approx) concurrent to HCG use has been show to reduce testicular desensitization. This means that the clomid can be used on cycle, but in tiny doses. The dose size would increase dramatically in PCT.

Good old clomid, ya just gotta love it!...

did you read thos from palumbo
 
did you read thos from palumbo

No, got a link?I'm not one of these guys who's always gotta be right or get the last word on stuff. I am only human.

I only based my statement on what I read, but that doesn't mean it wasn't crap. If you've got a link to something that refutes what I wrote, I'd be happy to read it. I love to learn, I just don't always have time to study, that's why I value input from others.
 
I'm pretty sure you've got that backwards bro.

I think the study you are referring to showed desensitization to HCG NOT sensitization.

If HCG sensitized the testes, after PCT when the HPTA came back into ballance, the over sensitive testes would pump out huge natty test. (probably a good thing)

Anyway, the study showed that desensitization occurred with huge doses given over extended periods of time. This doesn't compare to the relatively tiny doses male BBers use while on cycle.

Also, I read that a TINY dose of Clomid (5-10mg approx) concurrent to HCG use has been show to reduce testicular desensitization. This means that the clomid can be used on cycle, but in tiny doses. The dose size would increase dramatically in PCT.

Good old clomid, ya just gotta love it!...

You could be right. I'm not sure which happens. But I know that some push like 5000 ius after a cycle, etc in one shot so I referring more to that approach.
 
You could be right. I'm not sure which happens. But I know that some push like 5000 ius after a cycle, etc in one shot so I referring more to that approach.

I think the desensitization occurred at about 2000IUs per day after a year or 2, so with guys running 250-500IUs E3D on cycle, or 1500IUs E3D in the last 2 weeks of a cycle, I don't think desensitization (or sensitization) would be a big problem.
 
I think the desensitization occurred at about 2000IUs per day after a year or 2, so with guys running 250-500IUs E3D on cycle, or 1500IUs E3D in the last 2 weeks of a cycle, I don't think desensitization (or sensitization) would be a big problem.

Okay..that's good to know that it takes quite a bit.
 

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