Bostin Loyd lays out the truth about Dallas McCarver and the BB industry

[Adonis89]

It's curious to me why some of us feel so strongly offended by porn, homosexuality and g4p.

Porn is not all that taboo anymore, and in fact there is quite a large and lucrative industry built around it. Furthermore, all of us hormone using guys certainly enjoy our fair share of it.

Bodybuilding can be considered a portrayal of male physical perfection, so no wonder homosexuals have ties to the sport. I'd venture to say they're large supporters of what we do.

If guys think this is limited to bodybuilding, they're VERY wrong. I was involved with acting in theater for a few years and even made my way to a Broadway show. Despite my having quit the show, I can say that mainstream show business (don't forget bodybuilding is a niche of show business), is WAY more sexually corrupt than half of what I've seen, heard and experienced in bodybuilding.

I quit the show because despite being hired by the writer, I could be fired by the producer (both homosexuals - as are many who run showbiz). I found out after many months of rehearsal that if I didn't basically give the producer what he wanted, I'd be fired. I quit before that could happen. In showbiz, its 50x worse then in bodybuilding. It's all about power. There's a lot more money and ego in showbiz. Modeling (been there too), acting (theatre and TV/Film)..it's all the same.

It's illogical and in some ways hypocritical to be offended by the taboo of pornography/homosexuality and it's involvement in bodybuilding when most would consider what we do to our bodies far more taboo than sex...

Maybe I'm excessively open minded, but in 2013 I have a hard time understanding the insecurity about porn, sexuality, etc. It's one thing to not want to do it, but it's entirely different to condescend on those who participate as if they're some hopeless crackwhores.

I know girls and guys in porn. Some are fucked up, most are not. Many are just really sexual people and have fun with it.

I'm not for it or against it, I'm neutral. I just don't agree with those who condescend on it and then proceed to stick needles in themselves for bigger muscles while getting mad at those who think that is fucked up or weird.

 

[muscledoc1]

While at the end of the day, nobody really "knows" anyone's business...

It's sad because most of O'Regan's clients are all the same. I would agree with 50% of what Bostin assumes/knows. I was mentioned earlier in this thread without being mentioned directly. Bostin isn't far off with half of it. Otherwise, he just seems cunty.



It's this type of behavior (of Dallas, Bostin, and bodybuilders in general) that has lead me away from the people of this sport. It's embarrassing. I'm lucky to have met the friends I have left in bodybuilding. We were definitely cut from a different cloth.

You like lifting weights? You like clean food? Great! Shut up and go enjoy it. Not in a "Go do work son!" kind of way either. Enjoy your training sessions. Enjoy your meals. Enjoy the fact that you weren't born in a third world country and that you have many advantages in life. Enjoy your friends (real life, not other egomaniacs) and family and kids and dogs and jobs and schools.

Bodybuilding isn't special. We essentially spend the same amount of time in the gym that everybody else does. We still have to feed our faces like the rest of society. You should have plenty of time for LIFE. Look at John Meadows. He has a wife, kids, and (did have) a real job, AND a successful business giving back to idiots like us... Scott Stevenson has more education and life experience in his 40's than most of use will have in 3 life times...

I'm not anti-bodybuilding... I love this sport and have for 10+ years of my life. I'm just at the point where I see where people go wrong and why. I wish I had made better choices when I was younger. I'm able to have so much more in my life now than I did before, yet my results in the gym are still fantastic. I probably look better now and am a healthier individual than when my brain was 100% wrapped around my next show.


Imagine the amount of effort a heroin addict puts forth in his or her life to get high. If that effort was put towards building a good life, the possibilities are endless. Now replace heroin addict with bodybuilder. There's no difference.

BEST reply in my opinion!!....i'm with you on all brother....been it for almost 22-years enjoy every bit of it(well almost every bit..lol)-and never competed...

 

[Bull_Nuts]

How much longer must this thread go on?

 

[mrbiggie]

What I want to know is how does your mom pay for your steroids and GH?

My mom would get pissed when it was time to buy me school cloths each year.

LMAO!!!

 

[pieguy]

It's curious to me why some of us feel so strongly offended by porn, homosexuality and g4p.

Porn is not all that taboo anymore, and in fact there is quite a large and lucrative industry built around it. Furthermore, all of us hormone using guys certainly enjoy our fair share of it.

Bodybuilding can be considered a portrayal of male physical perfection, so no wonder homosexuals have ties to the sport. I'd venture to say they're large supporters of what we do.

If guys think this is limited to bodybuilding, they're VERY wrong. I was involved with acting in theater for a few years and even made my way to a Broadway show. Despite my having quit the show, I can say that mainstream show business (don't forget bodybuilding is a niche of show business), is WAY more sexually corrupt than half of what I've seen, heard and experienced in bodybuilding.

I quit the show because despite being hired by the writer, I could be fired by the producer (both homosexuals - as are many who run showbiz). I found out after many months of rehearsal that if I didn't basically give the producer what he wanted, I'd be fired. I quit before that could happen. In showbiz, its 50x worse then in bodybuilding. It's all about power. There's a lot more money and ego in showbiz. Modeling (been there too), acting (theatre and TV/Film)..it's all the same.

It's illogical and in some ways hypocritical to be offended by the taboo of pornography/homosexuality and it's involvement in bodybuilding when most would consider what we do to our bodies far more taboo than sex...

Maybe I'm excessively open minded, but in 2013 I have a hard time understanding the insecurity about porn, sexuality, etc. It's one thing to not want to do it, but it's entirely different to condescend on those who participate as if they're some hopeless crackwhores.

I know girls and guys in porn. Some are fucked up, most are not. Many are just really sexual people and have fun with it.

I'm not for it or against it, I'm neutral. I just don't agree with those who condescend on it and then proceed to stick needles in themselves for bigger muscles while getting mad at those who think that is fucked up or weird.

I don't find anything wrong with porn or gay 4 pay. However, if bodybuilding is to be taken seriously on a national level, it kind of hurts to have the two intertwined. It's one thing for some athletes who for some reason are seen as role models do a spread on SI, and another to have them be considered pornographic actors/actresses.

I mean in bodybuilding's current state, I don't see anything wrong with doing whatever you find acceptable to earn some cash on the side, especially if you have a nice physique. But if bodybuilding is ever going to get past being considered a niche hobby with national exposure, seems like a disconnect needs to be created.

 

[Elvia1023]

I don't find anything wrong with porn or gay 4 pay. However, if bodybuilding is to be taken seriously on a national level, it kind of hurts to have the two intertwined. It's one thing for some athletes who for some reason are seen as role models do a spread on SI, and another to have them be considered pornographic actors/actresses.

I mean in bodybuilding's current state, I don't see anything wrong with doing whatever you find acceptable to earn some cash on the side, especially if you have a nice physique. But if bodybuilding is ever going to get past being considered a niche hobby with national exposure, seems like a disconnect needs to be created.

I agree with this 100%. But imo bodybuilding should never have national exposure. The only way this should happen is if aas become legalized. If that happens then sure it would be great to have bodybuilding all over the tv ... basically to be taken seriously by the masses. Fact is it takes a lot of drugs to look a certain way so to me how can that be promoted on a national level. Would any of us seriously want our kids to be Mr Olympia. Sure it would be cool but would you look at your 5 year old thinking yeah I would love him to be a freak in the future (of course not).

I know drugs are in every sport but people can go far in most sports without using them. The same can not be said for bodybuilding. People will always want the freaks and the huge ripped bodies so drugs will always be needed. If judging criteria changes they would still be needed but not so bad but I repeat people will always want to see freaks. Although there are things like wrestling (popular and lots of drugs) but that is a show and different to me.

I agree with Adonis about the porn etc. I think a lot of it is down to a lot of people being highly homophobic. They don't seem to have a problem with girls doing it but men that's a big no. I couldn't care either way and understand why they would... easy money. Sure it would never happen in certain circles but most bodybuilders are normal guys with normal jobs but have huge outgoings due to the huge amounts of food, drugs and miscellaneous costs due to competing. Guys are on standard wages and they are getting $500 of gh a month... there are not many other hobbies that cost so much money.

 

[cac3071]

In a way I feel sorry for the younger guys. The internet means that every immature thought they have can be captured forever. This guy (hopefully) will not feel this way at 35 yet it is on the net forever. I am glad every stupid idea I had about the world at 21 was not put out there for the world to see.

I just see a young, immature child who doesn't have the life experience to realize how he sounds. Not much different than my 3 year old in some ways.

 

[Polska]

That's the type of interview you give after you retire, not when you are starting out. Dumb ass.

 

[Adonis89]

I don't find anything wrong with porn or gay 4 pay. However, if bodybuilding is to be taken seriously on a national level, it kind of hurts to have the two intertwined. It's one thing for some athletes who for some reason are seen as role models do a spread on SI, and another to have them be considered pornographic actors/actresses.

I mean in bodybuilding's current state, I don't see anything wrong with doing whatever you find acceptable to earn some cash on the side, especially if you have a nice physique. But if bodybuilding is ever going to get past being considered a niche hobby with national exposure, seems like a disconnect needs to be created.

Agreed. In this context it boils down to marketability. 1+1=3 when it comes to taboos being added together (i.e. being known for bodybuilding and porn).

 

[Adonis89]

I agree with this 100%. But imo bodybuilding should never have national exposure. The only way this should happen is if aas become legalized. If that happens then sure it would be great to have bodybuilding all over the tv ... basically to be taken seriously by the masses. Fact is it takes a lot of drugs to look a certain way so to me how can that be promoted on a national level. Would any of us seriously want our kids to be Mr Olympia. Sure it would be cool but would you look at your 5 year old thinking yeah I would love him to be a freak in the future (of course not).

I know drugs are in every sport but people can go far in most sports without using them. The same can not be said for bodybuilding. People will always want the freaks and the huge ripped bodies so drugs will always be needed. If judging criteria changes they would still be needed but not so bad but I repeat people will always want to see freaks. Although there are things like wrestling (popular and lots of drugs) but that is a show and different to me.

I agree with Adonis about the porn etc. I think a lot of it is down to a lot of people being highly homophobic. They don't seem to have a problem with girls doing it but men that's a big no. I couldn't care either way and understand why they would... easy money. Sure it would never happen in certain circles but most bodybuilders are normal guys with normal jobs but have huge outgoings due to the huge amounts of food, drugs and miscellaneous costs due to competing. Guys are on standard wages and they are getting $500 of gh a month... there are not many other hobbies that cost so much money.

bbing is a really interesting sport because although drug use (PEDs and recreational) are prominent in every sport, in bodybuilding they're more of a necessity (PEDs) and a contingency.

That's one of the things that deterred me from pursuing bodybuilding in a career sense because I find it two-faced (I still love it, though). On the surface, we promote the sport with no real mention of AAS and gain a fan base, which is great, but the athletes then live in this other world consisting of illegal activity that they more or less need for their careers. I consider it too much risk to build a life and career around something that requires me to engage in illegal activity. Keep in mind though, I'm talking about the US. In Canada and the UK for instance, the laws are different which makes this less of an issue when looking at bodybuilding on a global level.

Hoping one day us Americans adopt at least a similar view on AAS as UK/Canada...

 

[money138]

I like this guy's videos. Being honest about what it takes is better than lying "for the kids".

 

[Jonny]

I think people that are gay should be honest about it, not try to jerk off next to you, when they think they have the chance. Weird shit......

 

[Knight9]

I think people that are gay should be honest about it, not try to jerk off next to you, when they think they have the chance. Weird shit......

LOLLLLL WTF? :naughty:

 

[DerrickRigg]

Most of the bbing community know what needs to be done in prepping their bodies for competition. For me, heavy dosages worked best because I was a big guy.

And for the comments about stripping. I've done it to cover bbing costs along with along of other bb'ers. The bigger the muscle guy, the better the tips. Most people outside of hardcore bbing don't realize the costs associated with this sport. I hold a full-time job, do personal training, and may do stripping again to cover costs.

I'm planning a 2015 contest. I'm no longer a young bb'er but an experienced bb'er with a family who has the has goal of being a freaky sized bb'er. At 6'2" and 268, I'm moving in the right direction. Plan to hit 290-305 and then diet down. I still got the hunger.

 

[IronManRep]

Speaking of Boston Lloyd, did anyone else see the Team 3 CC's shirt he wore to a recent major contest? It had a picture of a huge syringe on the back with juice coming out, and yes I'm speaking the truth!

 

[biglizard225]

Speaking of Boston Lloyd, did anyone else see the Team 3 CC's shirt he wore to a recent major contest? It had a picture of a huge syringe on the back with juice coming out, and yes I'm speaking the truth!

That doesn't surprise me.. He's an idiot

 

[Jeremy24]

Speaking of Boston Lloyd, did anyone else see the Team 3 CC's shirt he wore to a recent major contest? It had a picture of a huge syringe on the back with juice coming out, and yes I'm speaking the truth!

He also has fitted caps now that say 3cc on them.

and has areila talking on IG about using humalog with her breakfast, thats fine if she is but it doent need to be public knowledge, just like the youtube videos.

In a way the kid has come up with a great scheme to make money, IM NOT CONDONING HIS ACTIONS JUST STATING FACTS.

12.95 a month for his web site, probably couple hundred kids on there

However much for his "coaching" says he has over 100 clients

ive seen a few of his clients and they are all young, small, impresionable kids!

hes basically feeding off the weak and unknowledgable to make money, a scam, but not a new one! You WILL NOT AND I REPEAT WILL NOT ever see him work with any seasoned competitors!!!

 

[ScarsnBars]

I don't really have a problem with what this Bostin Loyd kids does. To me, at least he's honest, and what he's trying to sell is no different than the Pro's supporting a supplement company.

The kid does take shit to the extreme, but I imagine it's not that crazy compared what other top level BB's are doing. I hope for his sake, he doesn't end up in the "dead pool" by age 30.

As for the "lifestyle" associated with bodybuilding, it is what it is. It's always been that way, and always will be. Bodybuilding isn't cheap, and god knows most of us are not getting rich off the "sport".

If you have to take it in the ass, prance around in a banana hammock or do porn, that's your business. I could really care less. Hell, when I was a young guy, a couple of us from the gym would do private parties for ladies on the weekends for side money. These days, I can barely "shake my money maker" for the old lady without being told to go to bed. LOL

 

[Jonny]

LOLLLLL WTF? :naughty:

John O'Regan...

 

[ajdos]

The Truth Behind IFBB Pro Dallas Mccarver - YouTube

Key points:

1. Dallas McCarver talks smack about Bostin in a thread on MD (where Bostin laid out his drug stack he used to win the NPC Contra Costa), saying that he should prioritize other things than gear
- Dallas claims that training, diet, supplements, massage therapy (LOL), and rest are more important than gear
- Dallas claims that Bostin is sending a bad message by saying that drugs are what it takes to go anywhere in this sport


2. Bostin reveals truths about Dallas and about the Industry and makes the following claims:
- Bostin had the same "trainer" or drug guru as the one Dallas is using currently (who is known to put his athletes on TONS of drugs)
- Bostin only lasted 3 weeks with him bc he put him on so much gh and AAS that his body felt "toxic", could not eat due to all the orals, could not shave due to all the hgh hands
- Dallas uses 15iu HGH serostim, while Bostin only uses 4iu of Chinese generics
- Dallas' parents pay for all his drugs
- The bodybuilding industry is full of fakes
- This particular trainer got other youngsters like Nick Trigili and Cody Lewis huge
- Ifbb pros don't use their supplements from sponsorships and just pawns them off to others
- Dallas McCarver got lucky to get a pro card, b/c Drew Jemmott and Dan Decker wasn't in the open. And Dallas' trainer paid off a judge.
- Bodybuilding at the top level is chemical warfare because everyone at that level already has great genetics.
- Run the fuck away from trainers that stress that growing and looking like a freak is all about food and low dose (LOL)
- Force feeding is not the way to go, listen to your body's feedback
- Some IFBB pros and NPC level top amateurs who are desperate for money turn to gay porn, porn, and cam shows for money (G4P)




Interesting...

And Bostin acts like this should be a shocking revalation to anyone who has a clue already.
I dont like Bostin, I already had one kid come to me and tell me Bostin says take this take that and you'll be a pro.
This kid has NO chance to be a pro. He has a fine physique but hes 20 and has a long way to go to even scratch the surface of development.
Is it true a lot of guys use a lot of drugs, YES.
Is it true that if you push the dosages you will get better results? NO.
Oh there is a point if you go from say 2 grams to 3 grams, but eventually you are going to hit a point where its not only unhealthy but impractical to do.
I did this personally, ran 7 grams, yes I said SEVEN. And at least 6 was from injectables.
Thats a lot of poking and it wears you down, your body hurts all over and you feel tired and sleep shitty. Which translates into bad training and shitty recovery, not to mention the cascade of health issues that arise from that.
I dont like him because I think hes irresponsible with his advice to people.
Telling a 20 yr old to use slin when hes only done one cycle previous is just bad news.
But nowadays, guys like me trying to tell people 20 yrs younger about mistakes I made is like talking to a brick wall.
I bet in 5 years or less Bostin isnt even in the bodybuilding scene anymore- I have seen young guys like him, they burn out quick. Bodybuilding is a long haul sport unless you are genetically gifted like the Phil Heaths, Rammys, or Levrones.