bought 3000mcg LR3-IGF1 in liquid form

[Geoffke]

I'm gonna have some IGF sended to me.
The dealer said it's in liquid form and I don't need to mix it.
It's ready to use.
He said it's pre diluted in AA.
The brand is nutral.

I thought you can only buy IGF in powder form?
What do you'll think?

 

[Hudson]

From what I have read pre mixed= worthless or next to worthless by the time you get the stuff.

Its supposed to be in the same family as GH, and reacts much the same way with respect to how you must handle the stuff

 

[Mexmuscle]

If you bought it from MC, its an excellent product. Yes, it comes reconstituted already. Just go ahead and enjoy it.

 

[JonnyO]

I believe if its in AA its good to go for a while so you should be alright.

 

[Hudson]

I was trying to find an article I read by a chemist but havent had luck so far. I imagine at minimum it has to be delivered in some kind of cold pack and overnighted?

But the short of it was that hman growth hormone and IGF belong to the same "family" and share the same protocols for care and handling. If I hve any luck tracking down the article Ill post it up here.

 

[Hudson]

Ok, I'm no chemist but the objection to shipping in a liquid form was that in addition to the problem of having to keep it refrigerated, the handling of the shipping (bouncing etc) reaks havoc on the peptide chains that make up IGF

He claims this is the same reason why no one would suggest sending HGH in a similar fashion.

Hopefully someone who knows more will comment. Im curious myself, especially considering how costly it can be to purchase.

 

[MikeS]

I hear from some that some of these oral and premixed IGF1 products are OK.
My opinion-no way. It needs to be refridgerated AND in a low PH environment.

 

[zephyr22]

Yup,

Looks bad too me. Trust me im in the medical profession. You see when you have even a vial of insulin lets say it was NPH. Which is long acting version of insulin. Anyways a lot of the insulin will fall out of solution so you have to slowly roll the bottle in your hands very slowly to get it to mix up again. If you agitate it to heavily bam the molecular chains are broken. Now will the IGF-1 work , Yes. It will still have some chains that made it through the jarring and bouncing but it certainly will not be as potent as it should be. It would be like buying a bottle ob Brovel 200 test from Mexico and finding out they actually only put 100mg instead of 200. Lypholised form is the easiest way to do it. I dont understand why they reconstitute the stuff before shipping???? Lypholised can be bounced and jiggled etc all you want. It also can be at room temp for at least a week. Let us know how it goes. Next time I would suggest getting it first from reputable source (not saying your source is not reputable). Then make sure it is in lypholised state and sealed under nitrogen which means when you go to reconstitute it has negative pressure inside the vial and will literally suck the fluid in to the vial. Also never aim the solution straight in to the vial. Always aim at the side and let it slowly drip on the Igf1 powder in the vial.

 

[bigbaldbulldog]

well.....

Good luck with it...i would pay an extra buck or two to be sure what i was getting was not all bounced apart..is it useless..i don't think so but i would be willing to bet it is not as potent as stated before...those with experience and with medical knowledge are best to listen to...

 

[rAJJIN]

Looks bad too me. Trust me im in the medical profession. You see when you have even a vial of insulin lets say it was NPH. Which is long acting version of insulin. Anyways a lot of the insulin will fall out of solution so you have to slowly roll the bottle in your hands very slowly to get it to mix up again. If you agitate it to heavily bam the molecular chains are broken. Now will the IGF-1 work , Yes. It will still have some chains that made it through the jarring and bouncing but it certainly will not be as potent as it should be. It would be like buying a bottle ob Brovel 200 test from Mexico and finding out they actually only put 100mg instead of 200. Lypholised form is the easiest way to do it. I dont understand why they reconstitute the stuff before shipping???? Lypholised can be bounced and jiggled etc all you want. It also can be at room temp for at least a week. Let us know how it goes. Next time I would suggest getting it first from reputable source (not saying your source is not reputable). Then make sure it is in lypholised state and sealed under nitrogen which means when you go to reconstitute it has negative pressure inside the vial and will literally suck the fluid in to the vial. Also never aim the solution straight in to the vial. Always aim at the side and let it slowly drip on the Igf1 powder in the vial.

Very good Post! I agree with all the above 100%
Im no expert But this all makes sense to me. Get the individual 100Mcg Vials..
they come 10 vials to a kit which will equal your 1mg...

A lot of 'companys' will set in 1 vial with 1mg (or 1000mcg)
Id prefer it in the kits 0f 100mcg and use it up withing the 24hrs of mixing it.

 

[bigbrian58]

This may piss some people off and I am sorry, but there is so much bs hearsay crap about,"I read such and such".IGF long has been around for a good while now, so if you do not have personal experience with it, do not give advice!

I have run it about 8 times now, the earlier stuff being in alcohol, more recently in AA, and powder form.I have had decent results every time.No questions that some suspension mediums are better than others because of their ph...but this whole issue is overblown...almost sounds like the which GH is better debate, that has gone on for years.

For me it comes done to where you are getting your IGF from more than what it is mixed in.Having juiced for over twenty years, I was absolutely blown away by the results I got the first time using IGF long at 40mcg qd ...and this was in alcohol.Perhaps I could have used 20mcg a day and had the same results if I reconstituted it myself, who knows?But it worked, no question about that.

Sorry about the rant, just got irritated.

Peace

 

[MikeS]

Not saying you are wrong - alot of that is good. But it IS alot like the 'which gh is better' debate. And, its pretty much been fact, from an overwhelming sharing of experiences, that some gh is better than others. So, same with IGF1, and so similar, because the molecules (how delicatly they are bound)
and the end results are quite alike. Differences, yes, but I believe the knowledge we have about gh may help us learn more about a newer product like IGF1.