cabergoline for prolactin gyno : anyone tried ?

[mike1107]

did anyone ever try cabergoline with success to resolve prolactine induced gyno ?

 

[Demonox14]

bump!

 

[rippedfreak123]

was taking cabaser and didnt really see much of a difference in it..

i tend to be prone to gyno since i was young(puberty stage im guessing) so any type of cycle and shit i get flared up..

i stick to my adex and nolva..

so far not really to much luck with cabaser

 

[No-Go]

i have used cabergoline and it did help prolactin induced gyno

 

[KillerStack]

It would be interesting to see blood work on those with self-diagnosed "prolactin induced gyno" to see if prolactin really is elevated. From what I remember progestins (would include drugs such as tren and deca) can actually lower prolactin. A raise in estrogen can lead to an increase in prolactin though. This is from memory so I might be wrong.

I'd love to hear SWALE's take on "prolactin induced gyno".

 

[Doodle]

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[No-Go]

It would be interesting to see blood work on those with self-diagnosed "prolactin induced gyno" to see if prolactin really is elevated. From what I remember progestins (would include drugs such as tren and deca) can actually lower prolactin. A raise in estrogen can lead to an increase in prolactin though. This is from memory so I might be wrong.

I'd love to hear SWALE's take on "prolactin induced gyno".

Tren and Deca increase prolactin not lower it which is why you get gyno and taking an AI won't help, you need the levels to return to normal

 

[M21SL]

Ive heard it works and seen the changes. I know someone who was using AI's and nolva and it wasnt helping them at all, so they figured it was prolactin induced. Cabergoline cleared everything up for them. I know it probably works different for everyone, but I would say its worth a shot.

 

[KillerStack]

Tren and Deca increase prolactin not lower it which is why you get gyno and taking an AI won't help, you need the levels to return to normal

Have you seen blood work or do you have a reference showing that these compounds increase prolactin. I'm not saying they can't.

An AI or SERM can still help since gyno cannot develop without the presence of estrogen.

 

[oldfella]

If gyno is induced by prolactin then cabergoline or bromocriptine are the answers. Yes tren and deca will lead to increased prolactin in some. Please remember everyone reacts diferently to these compounds. get some blood work done to be sure what is the cause of your gyno and for your continued good health!!

 

[Fa Seeshus]

it works, but there are some studies that say extended use can damage the heart valves or something. i'll try to look it up.

raloxifene also seems good at clearing up puffiness from tren and deca.

the best effect of the caber is that it helps reverse deca and tren dick. it really reduces your refractory period, so you are ready to go again much quicker.

 

[b-boy]

yes mike i am currently using it and its working great, my gyno flared up due to deca (no not really that shit is illegal remember ) anyway it is going down big time with cabaser and nolva both, nolva alone did nothing but is working great with cabaser.

 

[deltaguy]

it works, but there are some studies that say extended use can damage the heart valves or something. i'll try to look it up.

raloxifene also seems good at clearing up puffiness from tren and deca.

the best effect of the caber is that it helps reverse deca and tren dick. it really reduces your refractory period, so you are ready to go again much quicker.

The study was using superfluous doses... no where near what we take... something like 100 times the dose a bodybuilder would use for a deca/tren cycle.

BTW, there is a great article on tren and prolactin gyno written by William Llewellyn. Essentially, these will not increase prolactin and therefore not cause prolactin gyno. I will find it and post it here. It essentially boils down to the significant increase in estrogen caused by the test in the cycle compounded exponentially by the tren. This in itself will raise prolactin levels as well but not how we as body builders have believed for years.

Please hold your comments until i can find the article.... LOL

 

[deltaguy]

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/llewellyn/trenbolone.htm

Hope this helps.

I think I kind of explained it correctly but this is def on point.

 

[KillerStack]

The study was using superfluous doses... no where near what we take... something like 100 times the dose a bodybuilder would use for a deca/tren cycle.

BTW, there is a great article on tren and prolactin gyno written by William Llewellyn. Essentially, these will not increase prolactin and therefore not cause prolactin gyno. I will find it and post it here. It essentially boils down to the significant increase in estrogen caused by the test in the cycle compounded exponentially by the tren. This in itself will raise prolactin levels as well but not how we as body builders have believed for years.

Please hold your comments until i can find the article.... LOL

Didn't see prolactin mentioned in the article but what you say here is pretty much my impression after looking into it a bit years ago - that estrogen increases prolactin but drugs such as deca and tren probably don't. Testosterone coud increase prolactin due to aromatization.

"progesterone induced gyno" and "prolactin induced gyno" aren't scientific terms. There are several hormones that interact in breast tissue growth, estrogen and igf-1 being the main players without which gyno cannot develop.

 

[Swifto]

Didn't see prolactin mentioned in the article but what you say here is pretty much my impression after looking into it a bit years ago - that estrogen increases prolactin but drugs such as deca and tren probably don't. Testosterone coud increase prolactin due to aromatization.

"progesterone induced gyno" and "prolactin induced gyno" aren't scientific terms. There are several hormones that interact in breast tissue growth, estrogen and igf-1 being the main players without which gyno cannot develop.

Killerstack is right from what I know too.

I dont think there is still an awful lot known about progestins interaction with prolactin/progesterone. I know there are certainly NO studies at all to date, stating Deca/Tren increase progesterone, none that I have seen anyway. The same is for prolactin.

I remeber a great thread over at CEM a few years ago about progestins interaction with progesterone/prolactin/estorgen. I'll try and find it.

 

[NWMUSCLE]

Yes, it helps, try to get upjohn if you can alot of the stuff sold by research chem sites get VERY mixed reviews.
.5 mg e3rd day seems to work well for most

 

[BeenGone]

Im wondering why people dont just get a FULL hormone panel done while on various compounds just to see if tren ,deca ,or drol really do raise prolactin and or progesterone levels?

 

[Beta]

working on it right now!

 

[BeenGone]

working on it right now!

Posting the results would be great for the board ,I too plan on getting my levels checked while on a good amount of tren and plan on sharring the bloodwork results.Later will do with deca and drol.