Can too much vitamin K2 destabilize soft plaque in artery walls?

[iron lifter]

any thoughts on this? someone over the weekend was talking about this at a get togethor but had no reason to say why, other than he heard from so and so?

 

[LATS]

I take k2 at 300mcg a day .. that was recommended by my cardiologist.. I have studied in quite a bit since I didn't like my calcium score and haven't seen any negatives in regards to destabilizing plaque

 

[Reno911]

I wouldn't worry about it. I also micro dose Crestor at 5mg 2x/week to get the plaque stabilization effect.

Opinions will vary but I feel that a low dose statin has a lot of positive benefits for the older enhanced fellas.

 

[Knight9]

I take k2 at 300mgs a day .. that was recommended by my cardiologist.. I have studied in quite a bit since I didn't like my calcium score and haven't seen any negatives in regards to destabilizing plaque

*mcgs

Hope you are well, LATS!

 

[LATS]

*mcgs

Hope you are well, LATS!

Yes mcg.. my bad.. im good.. hope you good as well..

 

[Jgardn14]

any thoughts on this? someone over the weekend was talking about this at a get togethor but had no reason to say why, other than he heard from so and so?

Other then the major effects of breaking loose, how could you tell if there was destabilization?

 

[bbxtreme]

any thoughts on this? someone over the weekend was talking about this at a get togethor but had no reason to say why, other than he heard from so and so?

Very unlikely. It doesn’t really work that way. The key with vitamin k is to take a consistent dosage. Don’t mega dose it and don’t be inconsistent. Especially if you’re using any form of blood thinners.

 

[NEMSZ]

For what it’s worth @ChaseIrons was taking Koncentrated K supplement which contains;

K1 @ 5000mcg

K2 (as MK-4) @ 25mg

K2 (as MK-7) @ 0.5mg

So significantly higher doses than most Vitamin K supps and he reduced his calcium score back to 0 after some time taking it twice a day..

I started taking it once a day last year…

 

[buck]

For what it’s worth @ChaseIrons was taking Koncentrated K supplement which contains;

K1 @ 5000mcg

K2 (as MK-4) @ 25mg

K2 (as MK-7) @ 0.5mg

So significantly higher doses than most Vitamin K supps and he reduced his calcium score back to 0 after some time taking it twice a day..

I started taking it once a day last year…

I may give that a try. But i have eaten very large amounts of k naturally in my diet for decades. Plus have been taking vit K supplements for 20 years and still have a high calcium score. I tend to wonder if something else was going on when i read about big cures or if the testing was done incorrectly.

 

[Knight9]

For what it’s worth @ChaseIrons was taking Koncentrated K supplement which contains;

K1 @ 5000mcg

K2 (as MK-4) @ 25mg

K2 (as MK-7) @ 0.5mg

So significantly higher doses than most Vitamin K supps and he reduced his calcium score back to 0 after some time taking it twice a day..

I started taking it once a day last year…

The only thing you really need is K2 MK-7. I'd take 100mcg-360mcg/daily. Since the start of the pandemic, I have taken 300-400mcg almost like clockwork daily. What I have been trying to find out for a very long time is if an isolated MK-7 version can be used for people that have had strokes and are on thinners. It seems that K2 doesn't play a role in clotting and should be just fine but I cannot find definitive proof. Problem is...most 'professionals' aka Dr.'s don't even know something other than K1 exists.


MK-4 is cool and could be useful in a MK-4 + MK-7 supplement but you don't really need K1. Most people get plenty very easily from a basic diet.

 

[Knight9]

I may give that a try. But i have eaten very large amounts of k naturally in my diet for decades. Plus have been taking vit K supplements for 20 years and still have a high calcium score. I tend to wonder if something else was going on when i read about big cures or if the testing was done incorrectly.

K2 is hard to get in your diet..K1 is not. Buck, you know your stuff so I don't want to insult you here - but have you been taking a properly dosed and manufactured K2?

https://menaq7.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/MQ7-Clinical-Studies.pdf

 

[buck]

K2 is hard to get in your diet..K1 is not. Buck, you know your stuff so I don't want to insult you here - but have you been taking a properly dosed and manufactured K2?

https://menaq7.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/MQ7-Clinical-Studies.pdf

Thanks for the study. Although that seems like they are writing about their own product. But i have seen a couple other small studies that support the findings. But small studies when applied to real life seem to not get as much traction. I get my K2 from LEF. Which i trust more then most places. Which is not as high of dose as some products. Yet still higher then probably 99% of what most people take in. As for natural sources. I was just writing about that to show that even with far more then K/K1/K2 then average person gets i still ended up with worse results then the average person does. Of course it is possible that my calcium score was higher many years ago before i started adding in Vit K2, which i have used for several years at least. But that seems less likely to me. I have had 2 calcium scores done several months apart were the second test showed about 15% lower amounts of calcium. But i am nor sure of how accurate testing is on those test.

 

[bbxtreme]

The only thing you really need is K2 MK-7. I'd take 100mcg-360mcg/daily. Since the start of the pandemic, I have taken 300-400mcg almost like clockwork daily. What I have been trying to find out for a very long time is if an isolated MK-7 version can be used for people that have had strokes and are on thinners. It seems that K2 doesn't play a role in clotting and should be just fine but I cannot find definitive proof. Problem is...most 'professionals' aka Dr.'s don't even know something other than K1 exists.


MK-4 is cool and could be useful in a MK-4 + MK-7 supplement but you don't really need K1. Most people get plenty very easily from a basic diet.

The short answer is yes, as long as the dosage is consistent. It’s when people start being inconsistent or taking too much when they have issues in these cases.