ip used to make the combo, i dont know if he still does.... but i took one and it made me sooooo sleepy, that i said fuck it and sold the rest to my friend. i heard keto makes u sleepy, fuck that.
The reason to include keto... is to keep your rectors clear, so you don't have to cycle clen. I was just reading about a recent clen study that was posted at another board saying that you don't need to cycle and that it's anticatabolic effects don't begin until around week 6!?!?!