• All new members please introduce your self here and welcome to the board:
    http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259
Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription
M4B Store Banner
ddd
Riptropin Store banner
Generation X Bodybuilding Forum
Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription
Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription
Mysupps Store Banner
IP Gear Store Banner
Anabolic Hormones Store Banner
Ganabol Store Banner
Spend $100 and get bonus needles free at sterile syringes
Professional Muscle Store open now
LandmarkChem Email Banner
Medtech Store Banner
Bruce Labs Store banner
qtropin
Professional Muscle Store open now
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store

Dbol 10mg Bridge / PCT

DrZaius7

Member
Registered
Joined
Apr 13, 2006
Messages
319
I've read that by taking 10mg Dbol first thing in the morning you can 'trick' your body into thinking the additional test is your body's own morning hormone spike and therefore will not shut you down.

Has anyone used this method as a successful bridge between cycles or during PCT?

I did a search and found a couple threads where some bros were going to try it but never followed up on their results so I'd like to see if anyone has actually tried this and what the results were.





DrZ
 

Dezzy

Active member
Kilo Klub Member
Registered
Joined
Dec 6, 2006
Messages
1,169
never tried it. i have read about this method. sounds feasible .
 

Ness

Active member
Kilo Klub Member
Registered
Joined
May 31, 2007
Messages
1,598
Old bro-science. Try for yourself and get blood work done every week. Good luck.
 

tenny

New member
Featured Member
Kilo Klub Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2003
Messages
7,434
number 1

your NOT gonna trick your body into ANYTHING!!!!

all your doing is prolonging the inevitable

but

you COULD (slow down) inevitability
you basically wont notice it as much
with a long slow tapper

:cool:
 

IronCore

New member
Registered
Joined
Jul 13, 2010
Messages
87
number 1

your NOT gonna trick your body into ANYTHING!!!!

all your doing is prolonging the inevitable

but

you COULD (slow down) inevitability
you basically wont notice it as much
with a long slow tapper

:cool:
x2... your body will recognize the exogenous test as such... and what good is 10mg anyway?
 

Cosmicdrifter

New member
Registered
Joined
Apr 15, 2010
Messages
329
I'm not advocating it, but the following rationale in support of Dbol Bridging is the one I have seen most on the internet:

The Dianabol Bridge Explained

I've been reading some of the posts regarding this
bridge and some of them are truly from left-field.
First of, this is a BRIDGE. OK? A B-R-I-D-G-E.

Your LH function and Test levels are supposed
to RECOVER.

Ok, now having said that.
Here's the pharma-kinetics behind Methandrostenolone,
brand name Dianabol.

10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogenous cortisone
by 50-70%.

The reason why Dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
it’s VERY anti-catabolic. It’s also dopaminergic giving you the
benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
its androgenic mode of action.
Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
function, thus STRENGTH.

OK. Now, let’s delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

When are testosterone levels highest?

Answer: In the AM, that’s when.

Your body releases a testosterone spike in the morning.
This is when testosterone levels are highest.

When are Insulin levels lowest?

Answer: In the AM that’s when.

Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
(Also fat, but protein is also being converted
to glucose via glucogenesis)

OK, here is where Dianabol’s short half-life works for us
(It’s 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)

lets take Subject X.

He's in bridging mode.
He has just woken up.
The body is about to release testosterone, thus
creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low.
His LH and test levels are very low.



He pops 10mgs of Dianabol.

Here is where things get interesting.

The 10mgs of Dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
released ENDOGENOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

The body will be partially fooled.
It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
(above the normal test spike), thus LH function WILL
REMAIN only partially (Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogenously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
RECOVER over time.
Also, Dianabol’s anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
in the morning from low insulogenic levels.

HOWEVER and here is where almost all of you go wrong.

You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of Dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!!

Why? Because of the blood levels of Dianabol you would generate.

10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
(Probably less)

5mg of Dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
in testosterone levels after the preceding one. Thus,
LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

Anything more (Say 20mgs), will cause a SECONDARY
testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
thus not allowing LH function to recover.

The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

So, here's the scenario summed up:

Beginning: LOW LH and test.

Adding the 10mgs Dianabol

LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
testosterone levels are kept at a level which
will not cause muscle-loss. Also, Dianabol’s anti-catabolic effects
will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
reduction)

This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
INCREASE anabolism (Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism (cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
of the way there but the only way you're going
to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
completely.
Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it
throughout the day and with Dianabol it HAS TO BE
once in the AM.
Hope that clears the air.
 

swoleup57

Member
Registered
Joined
Jan 6, 2008
Messages
101
I really just think coming completely off and recovering asap is the best route. Although the Dbol bridge does sound interesting.
If u give it a shot, let us know how it works out.
 

J_Diggs

New member
Registered
Joined
Jun 1, 2010
Messages
580
This is a very interesting read. I like the concept but I have a problem with the dbol 'tricking' our body. I just think it's a bit more intelligent than this assumption. I would love to get feedback from someone who actually gives it a try.

Also, the comment about anavar is interesting. I know there are a lot of folks on the forum that run cycles and use anavar for the last few weeks to aid in retaining gains. Now I know it isn't meant to be a bridge like the dbol, but is there any science to support using it in this manner?
 

Swifto

Well-known member
Kilo Klub Member
Registered
Joined
Sep 3, 2006
Messages
2,912
I'd like to see the evidence that Dbol actually lowers cortisol by "50-75%"...
 

Cosmicdrifter

New member
Registered
Joined
Apr 15, 2010
Messages
329
Most people quote L. Rea, the author of Chemical Muscle Enhancement, who said that methandrostenolone reduces cortisone by 40-70%.
 
Last edited:

tenny

New member
Featured Member
Kilo Klub Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2003
Messages
7,434
I'd like to see the evidence that Dbol actually lowers cortisol by "50-75%"...
well.....mostly ALL aas do this

its no secret....aas lower cortisol and promote muscle mass
 

minister

Kilo Klub Member / Board Supporter
Kilo Klub Member
Registered
Board Supporter
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
1,638
I've ben doing this for the last 2 years or so, every morning on an empty stomach 10 mgs of dbal does work excellent to suppress cortisol and boost test recovery. I read about this from a study a doctor did on individuals who cycled longer than 10 weeks and high doses, and the results were incredible, so ever since Ihave been doing this I've noticed a big difference in my recovery. Blessings my friends.
 

DrZaius7

Member
Registered
Joined
Apr 13, 2006
Messages
319
Minister, thanks for the info.

Do you hit the Dbol right at the end of your cycle during PCT or do you just Bridge with it?

I'm interested in trying it during PCT to see if it will help maintain the gains and keep cortisol in check while my boys recover.
 

juicin

Member
Registered
Joined
Sep 30, 2005
Messages
651
I've ben doing this for the last 2 years or so, every morning on an empty stomach 10 mgs of dbal does work excellent to suppress cortisol and boost test recovery. I read about this from a study a doctor did on individuals who cycled longer than 10 weeks and high doses, and the results were incredible, so ever since Ihave been doing this I've noticed a big difference in my recovery. Blessings my friends.
Minister, have you gotten blood work done while doing this to actually prove that your endogenous test levels are still recovering?
 

minister

Kilo Klub Member / Board Supporter
Kilo Klub Member
Registered
Board Supporter
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
1,638
I have read about this before. minister do you have a link to the study was done?
I have to try to find it, I read in depth about it in a long study on PCT, where a couple of doctors put together this sweet PCT protocol, which I still follow, and that's where they had their volunteers taking the 10 mgs of dbal on empty stomach upon awakening,and it was amazing how in 2 to 4 hrs after taking it cortisol levels dropped significantly, and it was used mainly for that purpose , but the tests also show a slight spike on endogenous test levels, So if you block cortisol which shoots up through the roof after getting off cycle, you'll have an upper hand on hanging on to gains, and if your test is slightly stimulated by it, it's an xtra benefit. By the way the study also showed that at that small dose dbal did not supress natural recovery. God bless you my friend.
 

minister

Kilo Klub Member / Board Supporter
Kilo Klub Member
Registered
Board Supporter
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
1,638
Minister, have you gotten blood work done while doing this to actually prove that your endogenous test levels are still recovering?
Yes, I always do my blood work twice a year, and the readings are pretty consistent.
I have always recover pretty good, but as I get little older, it's a little harder, and I noticed an improvement when I implemented this to my PCT. Did my test levels shoot through the roof when I started doing this ? No, but it definitely notice little improvements in BF and muscle retention.
 

Forum statistics

Total page views
501,822,029
Threads
123,343
Messages
2,347,529
Members
155,053
Latest member
BBRIGGS01
Top