Dog fighting article

[bigbadasian]

here is an article i found. again. i hate this shit. makes me sick to think ppl actually have no feelings what so ever about these dogs.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19028969/site/newsweek/

 

[HUTCH]

Ha whatever dude...Tell the story about your Dog trying to kill that dog at the dog park!!!! then you getting in a fight with the owner of the helpless dog!!!!!

Bring your dog to my backyard and see if he can beat lil Rella...

 

[oldfella]

I'll fight anyone of those dog owners to take their dogs off of them. They are gutless pricks that have to makeup for their lack of manliness by hiding behind tough dogs. Micheal Vick is scum for fighting dogs.

 

[BALDNAZI]

Lowlifes

People who do this shit need to be hung upside down and set on fire. The best part of it is that it is huge in the hip-hop culture. You can see it driving through the ghetto. Thug wannabes with their gold teeth and always a pit or 2 on a chain. They walk all hard with their dogs. God knows what they do with these poor animals. Fuck that whole culture and lifestyle. Pits are good dogs, its unfortunate these scumbags turn them into savages....

 

[Kaiser]

I hate this myself. Horrible. I wish I could get in the pit with some of the owners and organizers.

 

[Hiramabiff]

People who do this shit need to be hung upside down and set on fire. The best part of it is that it is huge in the hip-hop culture. You can see it driving through the ghetto. Thug wannabes with their gold teeth and always a pit or 2 on a chain. They walk all hard with their dogs. God knows what they do with these poor animals. Fuck that whole culture and lifestyle. Pits are good dogs, its unfortunate these scumbags turn them into savages....

So what are you really saying? Those people "Black people" are somehow responsible for the dire situation the breed is in....Huh? Everything is not racial

While it’d be nice to have a single enemy, irresponsible pit bull ownership spans all races, classes and genders. To me, it makes more sense to divide folks by who is interested in learning and who is not, who is willing to accept
and utilize resources offered to them, versus seeking them out,versus rejecting help at all. At the end of the day, the exact same risk factors apply to everyone evenly. Creating an intervention plan based on perceived need rather than the actual needs and desires of the community is foolhardy.

A great way to justify careless breeding practices is to believe that selling to “good homes only” will guarantee a good, and safe, adult dog. However,behavior is absolutely genetically inherited. Early life socialization to new stimuli in a positive way is in fact crucial for a dog that’s comfortable with the new and strange but no amount of socialization can trump faulty wiring. On-going socialization and,when necessary, de-sensitization training likewise will make Fluffy more comfortable but cannot undo genetics.

 

[STEVO 47]

years ago I use to hear that these guys would put gunpowder in
the dogfood to make them mean and agressive. Didn't believe it
till I saw it happen. Friend of mind had a pit called champain. nicest
dog you'd ever meet till his punk ass son started doing that shit and
after 6 months that freakin dog went nuts.

 

[aquaholic]

gaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

This makes me so angry!
*grrrrr!!!*

 

[Nothing Special]

People who treat animals like shit, are devils, regardless of race. These people have no soul, and are capable of doing anything at any time. It would be quite enjoyable to me if these dogs that they've turned into savages would turn on there owners, and rip there jugular.

 

[BALDNAZI]

Black people?

Hey Hiram, you said it not me. Hiphop culture spans all races does it not? So no I was not pointing to "black" people. You see plenty of 130 lb pale ass white kids with doo rags and pitbulls. I live in NYC remember, I see EVERYTHING.

So no, everything is not racial, but I call it as I see it. How many rap videos have you seen with dogs on chains, snarling, barking and appearing downright rabid? It seems I have seen this many times. Coincidence? Think not......

 

[Anon4AReason]

"White supremacist motorcycle and “skinhead” gangs reintroduced dogfighting to the west in the 1970s and 1980s, after it had been all but eliminated for half a century. Closely associated with methadrine trafficking, dogfighting appears to have crossed into the Afro-American and Hispanic inner city drug cultures and into Native American reservations during the 1980s via prison gangs."

Interesting... (taken from: **broken link removed** )

 

[Kaiser]

Hey Hiram, you said it not me. Hiphop culture spans all races does it not? So no I was not pointing to "black" people. You see plenty of 130 lb pale ass white kids with doo rags and pitbulls. I live in NYC remember, I see EVERYTHING.

So no, everything is not racial, but I call it as I see it. How many rap videos have you seen with dogs on chains, snarling, barking and appearing downright rabid? It seems I have seen this many times. Coincidence? Think not......

I have to agree BN. I saw nothing racial at all in your post. I stand by your comments.

 

[pimpofny]

i did not see anything racist in that post .......

now at the risk of being called a racist .....

whos the one who sets it off pulling the race card lookin for trouble ???


all your doin is adding fuel to the fire......I know others agree weather you comment or not

i dont mean to offend anyone but this too blatant not to call out who the real racist is

 

[oldfella]

I have to agree BN. I saw nothing racial at all in your post. I stand by your comments.

I too agree with BN and Kaiser. Nothing racial at all. Hispanics in the US are responsible for a lot of dog fighting. Croatians and Yugoslavs are responsible for some of the dog fighting here in OZ. Whites are responsible for a lot of dog fighting everywhere. No matter what the race PEOPLE are responsible for Dog fighting everywhere! Period. It has no racial boundries! Bn made reference to a culture not a race. And Hip Hop is a culture with many different races attached. I stand with BN.

 

[BALDNAZI]

Hey Anon

I wouldnt believe anything about race in "animal people news" as that is not their forte.Although yes, meth labs are a white problem. Sad state of affairs when your own kind pollutes our young.

And as far as dogfighting being introduced by white supremacists? Maybe trailer park whites, and people claiming to be a white supremacist, but as most people should know, even the Aryan Brotherhood is not race based, as much as it is a money making racket. So tread lightly brother, a true National Socialist appreciates nature and treats animals, especially dogs with love and respect.

One thing you did say is correct, what may have been true in the 70's and 80's is not applicable today, as the inner city has taken over far and beyond with dog fighting. And Hiphop has ran with it. White,black, hispanic..whatever.

 

[Hiramabiff]

Hey Hiram, you said it not me. Hiphop culture spans all races does it not? So no I was not pointing to "black" people. You see plenty of 130 lb pale ass white kids with doo rags and pitbulls. I live in NYC remember, I see EVERYTHING.

So no, everything is not racial, but I call it as I see it. How many rap videos have you seen with dogs on chains, snarling, barking and appearing downright rabid? It seems I have seen this many times. Coincidence? Think not......

I will simply say okay. The wording is quite "generalized": hung upside down and set on fire, hip-hop culture, ghetto, Thug wannabes. Kaiser you are far naive. I was not attacking him personally neither; if he was Black, I would say the same thing. You can stand by anyone you so chose; no problem here. Guess no one read the rest of my comments. No argument, just convo. Me and BaldNazi have always had goods words with each other actually. Regardless of the "moniker" he uses, he has never disrespected me, so I would not treat him in that manner. He is outspoken and quite blunt with his views. He has the balls to speak his mind.

My main point still has not been commented on.

I will not distract from the topic.

To tell you the truth I don't really watch most videos rap or otherwise. I do remember a couple of years ago, it was suppose to be "cool and tough looking" to feature pits and rotties in video's at the urging of big record label owners to sell the product; i.e rap,rock and metal. Hip hop culture spans across all races, but of course....when something goes wrong or when it is convenient it no longer become an all races issue, but a "black one". Did that make sense?

To tell you the truth this is all racism...doggie racism. Pits are always singled out. Discrimination against this magnificent breed of dog is just that, discrimination. Saying all pit bulls are blood-thirsty man-killers is simply racism in my view.

BaldNazi, what part of NYC do you live?

PimpofNy ..hope you are not referring to me.

Anyway enough of the race talk, back to dog issues.

 

[Kaiser]

I will simply say....umm okay..sure. The wording is quite "generalized": hung upside down and set on fire, hip-hop culture, ghetto, Thug wannabes. Kaiser you are far naive. I was not attacking him personally neither; if he was Black, I would say the same thing. You can stand by anyone you so chose; no problem here. Guess no one read the rest of my comments. No argument, just convo. Me and BaldNazi have always had goods words with each other actually.

I will not distract from the topic.

To tell you the truth I don't really watch most videos rap or otherwise. I do remember a couple of years ago, it was suppose to be "cool and tough looking" to feature pits and rotties in video's at the urging of big record label owners to sell the product; i.e rap,rock and metal.

To tell you the truth this is all racism...doggie racism. Pits are always singled out. Discrimination against this magnificent breed of dog is just that, discrimination. Saying all pit bulls are blood-thirsty man-killers is simply racism in my view.

BaldNazi, what part of NYC do you live?

Please don't call me naive, as you do not know me, and my experiences. I stated that I did not see anything wrong in what he posted. I am a hiphop fan all the way back to NWA days so I know what is going on in that arena. Does Em ring a bell? He's white, right? Get off the racial bus and start thinking straight about what the post is about.

 

[b-boy]

Hey Hiram, you said it not me. Hiphop culture spans all races does it not? So no I was not pointing to "black" people. You see plenty of 130 lb pale ass white kids with doo rags and pitbulls. I live in NYC remember, I see EVERYTHING.

So no, everything is not racial, but I call it as I see it. How many rap videos have you seen with dogs on chains, snarling, barking and appearing downright rabid? It seems I have seen this many times. Coincidence? Think not......

hey bro im not going to argue in this thread and get it locked and what not, but all I ask is that you do a search on pitbull fighting in the united states, I don't know how in the hell black people ever got involed as it was a gentlemans sport of white men only back in the day, earl tudor, hemphil, wallace, too many great WHITE MEN to name. thats where all the great bloodlines came from.. Colby is the oldest bloodline of pits in the united states.. another white man.. I learned all about pitfighting from some 50 to 60 year old WHITE MEN in North Carolina when i was about 22yrs old. pitfighting was started by WHITE MEN in the united states, and quess who is still doing the big money rolls in the south... yea you quessed it... WHITE MEN, black people somewhere along the line got a fascination with pitbulls and then backyard breeders started breeding all types of bullshit dogs. ha the white men of old had the real dogs, and still to this day have the real pit dogs, i have met very few brothas that have any really good blood lines of pitdogs. you need to read the book "dogs of velvet and steel" or any richard stratton books bro and get educated about your own people and the history of dog fighting... so don't blame the brotha's for your peoples shit...


PREACH BROTHA PREACH!!! SCHOOL IS NOW IN SESSION!

 

[bigbadasian]

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Ha whatever dude...Tell the story about your Dog trying to kill that dog at the dog park!!!! then you getting in a fight with the owner of the helpless dog!!!!!

Bring your dog to my backyard and see if he can beat lil Rella...

shit...you remember that story? well in my defense, he was getting in my fiance's face and tried to kick my dog b4 that...i dont play that shit....yeah since then ive been banned from that dog park! damn scottsdale snobs.

 

[bigbadasian]

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hey bro im not going to argue in this thread and get it locked and what not, but all I ask is that you do a search on pitbull fighting in the united states, I don't know how in the hell black people ever got involed as it was a gentlemans sport of white men only back in the day, earl tudor, hemphil, wallace, too many great WHITE MEN to name. thats where all the great bloodlines came from.. Colby is the oldest bloodline of pits in the united states.. another white man.. I learned all about pitfighting from some 50 to 60 year old WHITE MEN in North Carolina when i was about 22yrs old. pitfighting was started by WHITE MEN in the united states, and quess who is still doing the big money rolls in the south... yea you quessed it... WHITE MEN, black people somewhere along the line got a fascination with pitbulls and then backyard breeders started breeding all types of bullshit dogs. ha the white men of old had the real dogs, and still to this day have the real pit dogs, i have met very few brothas that have any really good blood lines of pitdogs. you need to read the book "dogs of velvet and steel" or any richard stratton books bro and get educated about your own people and the history of dog fighting... so don't blame the brotha's for your peoples shit...


PREACH BROTHA PREACH!!! SCHOOL IS NOW IN SESSION!

i dont know where my girls fit, but they are out of the Johnson bloodline