Endo scrip only 150 e2w?

ridge11 · Mar 30, 2009

Just got back from the endocrinologist and he prescribed me 150mg/test e every other week. This seems very low. He said that a low dose may spark my natural test production. Has anybody received this method? How did you respond? At this dose what type of test levels can I expect?

jm425 · Mar 30, 2009

ridge11 said:
Just got back from the endocrinologist and he prescribed me 150mg/test e every other week. This seems very low. He said that a low dose may spark my natural test production. Has anybody received this method? How did you respond? At this dose what type of test levels can I expect?

On the high end of normal to normal range.

Diesel1981 · Mar 30, 2009

Do yourself a favor and split that dose into 75mg each week. Males tend to produce 7mg of testosterone per day. So you are getting actually a little less than what a "normal" male would produce once you take into account the ester weight.

You will crash if you shoot test E every 2 weeks. Just split it into 75mg and shoot it once per week. That is a "decent" starting point.

klowndog · Mar 30, 2009

Damn that sucks.......

Just tell him forget about it and you want your money back.

samiam · Mar 30, 2009

klowndog said:
Just tell him forget about it and you want your money back.

everyone is different but I took 125mg a week for a couple weeks. Got blood work done 6 days after a dose and my total test was 250. Felt like crap.

I do not understand how taking synthetic test will restimulate your natural production at all - but of course I've never been to medical school.

maldorf · Mar 30, 2009

I am on 100mg/wk and feel decent, but am willing to bet its a bit on the low side. Will get blood levels taken soon. I would also tell you to inject once per week and not EOW. My endo wanted to do 200 mg EOW, but I insisted we do it 100 mg/wk and she had no trouble in prescribing it that way. Only problem youll run into if you go to weekly is that youll need more pins. talk to the doc and have it rewritten.

GoneForFuckingEver8 · Mar 31, 2009

samiam said:
I do not understand how taking synthetic test will restimulate your natural production at all - but of course I've never been to medical school.

most people who went to medical school got through it cause they have rich parents, and colleges are BUSINESES, they care about making money.thats why so many doctors are straight retards.

i recall when i was in college, i knew this rich guy and his rich girlfriend - both were pre-med and dumb as a box of rocks. they would pay me to do their organic chem reports for them. i never even took organic chem and found it simple.

of course there are always a few geniuses who actually know wtf is going on, they are hard to find.

scottbe · Mar 31, 2009

way to low-dont bother.......i get 200mg a week test c inject,and 7.5mg ando-gel testosterone a day! and feel great!

ridge11 · Mar 31, 2009

So nobody has ever heard of a low dose stimulating natural production?

ridge11 · Mar 31, 2009

I am pretty sure this theory is bullshit. So how should I manipulate the bloodwork to get a higher dose? Should I take injections and stop about 20 days before bloodwork? Should I just wait 6 weeks and get bloodwork done without starting?

Diesel1981 · Mar 31, 2009

No the low dose is just going to put you further back than you already are. Think about it... You are adding synthetic test to your body. Your body will recognize this, shut down its normal production and delay any efforts to recover.

I have heard using HCG, HMG, Aromasin and other ancillaries to try and bring up natural test levels, but NEVER heard of synthetic test.

jm425 · Mar 31, 2009

Captain_Kirk said:
most people who went to medical school got through it cause they have rich parents, and colleges are BUSINESES, they care about making money.thats why so many doctors are straight retards.

i recall when i was in college, i knew this rich guy and his rich girlfriend - both were pre-med and dumb as a box of rocks. they would pay me to do their organic chem reports for them. i never even took organic chem and found it simple.

of course there are always a few geniuses who actually know wtf is going on, they are hard to find.

So your saying that a retard can pass the medical exam which is required to get your license to be a doctor? That's the most ridiculous and absurd thing I have ever heard. Sure you can get someone else to do your hw and what not for you, but when it's time to take the medical exam you have to do that on your own and guess what, if you cheat your out. It took my uncle 3 tries to pass his exam and he was a very studious student in college who got good grades. Also, he wasn't one of these so called rich kids either, he still has to pay off his loans from medical school. And no, no matter how much money mommy or daddy has, if your a retard, you will not become a doctor.

Ashop · Mar 31, 2009

ridge11 said:
Just got back from the endocrinologist and he prescribed me 150mg/test e every other week. This seems very low. He said that a low dose may spark my natural test production. Has anybody received this method? How did you respond? At this dose what type of test levels can I expect?

Most men on TRT do best,,,at around 200mg per week. Your levels will flucuate too much if you inject only every 14 days.

buselmo · Mar 31, 2009

A few doctors know what they're doing when it comes to a vast subject like endocrinology, and the majority are really like any other profession, as in they're good in general stuff but suck when it comes to issues where you actually have to think and do research.
one of my friends has low natural test... doc said it's normal and he just has to learn to live with it (my friend is 27 y/o and he doesn't even workout)... i told him to go to another endo who actually said "there is a method where you take estrogen to increase your testosterone, but i don't advise it"... told him to get a third consult and finally the doc said "200 mg test per MONTH and we'll see how that goes"... i told him to discus with his doc if he could take 100 mg per week or so... the doc flipped when he heard that and said "that much testosterone would cause a heart attack!"

jm425 said:
And no, no matter how much money mommy or daddy has, if your a retard, you will not become a doctor.

not true... i know two very close friends of mine... one is very smart/hard working/ cares about his profession... the other is as dumb as a rock/lame as shit/only cares about making money and doesn't give a shit about anyone else... they both became doctors... and guess what? the dumb one gets paid more.

ridge11 · Mar 31, 2009

I think i am just gonna use the bloodwork scrip 6 weeks after my show and after a 5 week run of nolvadex and some slin in their. last time i did this it increased my test to 385. I am only 26 and would like to stay away from trt as long as possible. Going to go to another endocrinologist too. Any have anyone they would recommend in the philly area? I hope thats ok to ask.

jm425 · Apr 1, 2009

[/QUOTE]not true... i know two very close friends of mine... one is very smart/hard working/ cares about his profession... the other is as dumb as a rock/lame as shit/only cares about making money and doesn't give a shit about anyone else... they both became doctors... and guess what? the dumb one gets paid more.[/QUOTE]

He must've been smart enough to pass the medical exam or he probably bribed someone. It happens. Like I said before, you have to have some level of intelligence to pass it and become a doctor.

maldorf · Apr 1, 2009

not true... i know two very close friends of mine... one is very smart/hard working/ cares about his profession... the other is as dumb as a rock/lame as shit/only cares about making money and doesn't give a shit about anyone else... they both became doctors... and guess what? the dumb one gets paid more.[/QUOTE]

He must've been smart enough to pass the medical exam or he probably bribed someone. It happens. Like I said before, you have to have some level of intelligence to pass it and become a doctor.[/QUOTE]

I know from experience that the first year of medical school is quite rigorous. I took 2 of thier classes while I was in grad school. Gross anatomy and physiology were both rough and required a whole lot of study time. No idiot is going to be able to graduate med school and become a doctor, yet alone even get accpeted to med school in the first place. I sense that a lot of those that are saying doctors are idiots are perhaps just a bit jealous of doctors in some way.

Got Juice · Apr 1, 2009

just an observation here from someone who hasn't had synthetic test or his body producing much natural test for a while now....

i think 150mg EOW is significant and will probably do a great job at getting u back to feeling normal.. remember people, this dosage isn't to make u feel like your on steroids!! This is supposed to get you back to feeling NORMAL!! I think a lot of us forget what that is lol.

However, being off for as long as I have, 150mg EOW sounds breath taking.

terryd5150 · Apr 1, 2009

That dosage sounds about right. Remember we are talking about HRT here, not running a cycle of test.

The point of HRT is to get your test back into normal range, not above it.

But, as was added earlier, it would make better sense to do 75mg a week instead.

GoneForever · Apr 1, 2009

"may spark your natural test" Where the fuck did he go to school. If anything it will continue to hurt your natural test.

my dad(60yrs old) has been on 120mg cyp/wk the past 5years from his hrt doc. He see's some colon specialist last week who supposedly used to practice endo and said he doesnt need the test. He said at his age having those test levels will give him no benefit and just probs with hematocrit. He said drop it and your natural test will return within a few weeks. I wanted to punch the guy. No pct, nothing. He's crazy. I told my dad to plan on never having normal levels again and being at nearly zero for years if he's lucky.