European Help?

[flex 2002]

Hey guys im qualified for the europeans in the classic bodybuilding category for next may. I plan on starting prep in January for what will be biggest show I will ever do. Im in awe of all you guys and your pictures speak for them selves ye obviously know what ye are talking about. Basically the show will be drug tested if I make top 6 so I may need to work out a plan to that will avoid using long detecting gear. Im wandering if anyone could throw some ideas at me for cycles etc from January to say show on May 16th im just looking for opinions as all I have ever done are basic oral and test cycles. Thanks in advance any questions u have I will answer staright away ….

 

[vadim_b1]

since you have about 5 months

only things available to you would be test prop, orals, hgh, AI's and test suspension to peak

 

[flex 2002]

Thats exactly what i was thinking bro. Any ideas on how to put it together to utilise them properly.

 

[vadim_b1]

Do you have any sort of a plan? as in whether youre planning on staying on for the whole 5 months, or wanting to take some sort of a break.

 

[flex 2002]

Im thinking of stayin on the whole 5 months im clean now since september so by january im prepared to give it 20 weeks of full prep. If that makes sense. Really im looking for just ideas from guys like yourself or maybe others who have competed in such a show. Im currently 96 kilo i have to weigh in at 85 so i dont want to get any heavier just cut and sculpt what i have.

As im limited to what i can use how long could i successfully run test prop for?

 

[vadim_b1]

Well

first of all the hgh - you can run that throughout, and of course the longer the better
If you can do it for 5 months straight at 4-5 iu/day, it would be perfect.

Now with prop - you theoretically could start off with a long ester for 7-8 weeks but youre risking it since borderline detection for something like test enanthate is 3 months and that is according to info from early 2000's. I dont know what methods they have and use now, so i always suggest to take off an extra month or so to be safe.
So best and safest thing would be to run prop throughout the whole time. I know its a lot of pinning, but i did it before, so can you. Do it eod.
dont know your dosages you will know that better obviously.
With orals you have about 16 weeks, its a long time but it wont be that destructive if your dosages are reasonable. Perhaps limit usage to 12 weeks. Newest detection times for winstrol/anavar is 5-6 weeks, dbol about 8 weeks, anadrol - 8 weeks. So get rid of them by that time.
Run an AI throughout as well, my thought is arimidex/aromasin for 4 months of prep.
Detection times of AI's and Nolvadex arent well known but from what i was able to find and read on, its a month give or take a week. So 5 wks out, stop them as well.
This is how i would do it more or less.

The ancillaries like clen/ephedrine etc all safe to take as well, eph - 2 wks detection time, clen - about 4-5 days AFAIK.

 

[flex 2002]

Super mate just the info im looking for thanks for taking time to write it up. When would i stop the prop and introduce suspention?

 

[vadim_b1]

Super mate just the info im looking for thanks for taking time to write it up. When would i stop the prop and introduce suspention?

well prop is detectable for about 2 weeks, to be safe i would stop at 3 weeks and start doing suspension till about 4-5 days out. Maybe, just maybe you could stay on until the show on dosages that mimic natural test production, since obviously you will be shut down, and introducing 7-10 mg daily of susp would more or less equal your natural test levels.
Since the test looks at epitestosterone:testosterone ratio, you wont test positive with a small amount like that.

but to do it you would need some very accurately dosed suspension.

 

[flex 2002]

Im going to incorporate all your advise bro its simple and to the point just what i needed ... Many thanks bro

 

[vadim_b1]

Im going to incorporate all your advise bro its simple and to the point just what i needed ... Many thanks bro

no problem, glad i could be helpful. Good luck with the prep.

I might see you at the europes, if i dont qualify myself, my gf is competing in female bbing.

 

[flex 2002]

By the looks of your avatar you wont have any problem mate .ill be doing classic bodybuilding under 180cm and only aloud weigh 85 kilo so i need serious conditioning . Im only small but decent symmetry. Good luck to you and your girlfriend mate...

 

[flex 2002]

He bro have you ever used Tectoctepohy nponiohat FARMAK Propionat 50mg/1ml (Ukraine). Its what i plan on using?

 

[vadim_b1]

excellent prop if legit

 

[flex 2002]

Thanks bro i took it last year coulnt believe how pain free it was 100mg eod should do it so.