Fedor Turns Down UFC 3 Fight Deal

[kid1dakota]

I got your Pm and replied.
Thats all nonsense and it makes you guys look foolish.
Dont make me get out my belt and say STRAIGHTEN UP YOU TWO
Im going to erase the BS bickering posts (even the ones by the vets)
and You guys squash this crap. In the future my advise is watch how you word your posts and Try and Give the guys that have been here forever a bit of respect. Im not at all saying kiss there ass, or Give in, or agree to fit in....Just watch how you word things and act more professional.

Okay and I will.

 

[LATS]

well.. gsp dominated huges..twice... dominated serra in the rematch.. and dominated bj in the last fight.. he won very convincingly against alves... gsp is the only fighter that improves every single outing.. and is the most complete.. and most mma mags and trainers agree.. so yes, i would say that pound for pound over the last year or more gsp is the most dominant fighter today..

fedor.. not so much.. he beat silva.. in my opinion silva was the least skilled guy in that division.. if it was not the fact that he was 6'7 he would not be in the running.. just my opinion but, brock is not very skilled either.. he lacks alot.. but,. again, he is huge and strong and forces his will on guys.. it gets the job done but, again, not skill but size is what gets him by.. fedor does not want to tarnish his record.. that is why he is not going to sign or find a way out.. he loses at the ufc, it further makes the point that the ufc is the most "dominant" in the league.. not saying it is.. just saying it would appear that way to many..

so is fedor chicken? who knows.. but when he fought arlovski he was being pushed around pretty well and did not have a answer.. then arlovski made a stupid mistake and got fancy and lights out.. but until that point it did not look good for fedor.. just maybe.. he is over rated.. just maybe..

 

[rAJJIN]

I agree Lats. If fedor Loses thats it...when you lose your no Longer "king"
His name is worth nothing after that.
BUT is there ever going to be a Bigger payday then this for him in his Life???
Maybe if he holds out he think theyll offer more. If I was him and I knew I could Beat Lessnar Id take that deal. Who else is there after that? If he beats Lesnar he owns everyone else.

Im going to second the "possibly Chicken??"

 

[rAJJIN]

UFC.com has an interview from Dana on the website.
He says Fedor is afraid to compete.

 

[LATS]

I AGREE WITH HIM.. he was not impressive fighting arlovski.. he makes large cash in his country.. he is marketed well.. he knows he could lose and badly.. he wants to go out in tact.. you could tell by the demands he was making.. he knew there was no way he could get those demands.. but, if he wins he goes out a legend and makes large cash.. he appears to be lacking confidence..

 

[JJ-INSANE1]

Welll SHIIIIT

First, Rajjin.. i publicly apologize for getting out of hand with dakota. I promised Big A i wouldnt get pissy and argue anymore... well get violent and argue anyway. I cant help but argue its in my nature
I just cant stand being pushed and pushed. Im just to damn old for that.
I squashed that shit with dakota via PM. Whatever... he stays here long enough he will get the point. He gets respect by giving respect as we all do.

Now... Lats, Oh my GOD... all i can say is 'Whatever" man. Your one dude i refuse to argue with because your knoggin is as hard as mine, this i have learned
You have your opinions ... and i totally respect that. One thing i just have to argue about .. is the fact that ANYONE says Fedor is "scared" to fight.. anybody! He doesnt need the money Dana offers. He knows as well as anyone knows that once you sign on Danas dotted line you just signed your entire reputation and life away. If he thinks (like i do) that Brock will stay the money ticket and golden boy under Dana after he signs then he has to know he aint going to get a title shot because it would ruin the Golden whores money making abilities. There is no doubt Fedor would PLAY with Brock and beat him. Im willing to bet BIG money .... 5k, 10k. Thats how confident i am. If this fight does happen i DO plan on flying to Vegas and placing alot of money on Fedor. That is a promise.
Fact is, Fedors not a sell out. Personally i think he would hand GSP his ass. Brock would simply be a play day. No one trains as hard and as long ... with as much intensity as Fedor. He is a machine. He feels no pain and he doesnt talk truck loads of shit just to get attention like ya boy Brock. Its true... Brock is BIG and along with that comes his BIG mouth.
Im not saying Fedor would walk through anyone. Arlovski was a good fight but no matter what... who won? Thats the name of the game right?
He is 30 and 1 for a reason.
I have watched every Fedor fight at least 3 times. I have seen everything there is to see about the man. He is the real deal and i think if he was American more people would agree. Alot of bros just dont like Russians. I could care less i call them how i see them. Brock is a big ass baby. He is spoiled and he has no skill other then redneck Judo. GSP is good... i admit that. He is probably one of the best at least for now... but none of them could or will beat Fedor. I will bet against anyone Fedor steps in the ring with. Thats not just talk... thats confidence.

Raj ... man you can be honest and tell everyone how much of a big Fedor fan you are... Lats wont be that pissed

Now... this post is NOT intended to piss anyone off. I give the upmost respect to Lats and Raj... and anyone else that is here just to bullshit and have a good time talking about man stuff.

 

[Tyrone]

Pissing my pants...

Now I have to go back and read it all...The 'kid' just should rectify his recent wrongs....I see rAJ, Dad, Lats, K1 and JJ as good ProM friends and would never intentionally wrong any of ya. Sorry for anything out of line as I understand the situation, Ty

 

[ttexas03]

I talked to Kid1dakota. He understand the vets want there respect
and is going to make an effort to not disrespect that.
The silly arguments and threats are over. I know its easy to get caught up
and everyone here by now should know your not going to out Argue JJ
remember this is professional Muscle...Lets act like Grown men.
Threats, Name calling, and Snide remarks have never been allowed here.


Lets give the guy one more chance and see if he is just a hammerhead and stubborn like some of us or if he is here to cause drama and be a pain in our ass.

Alot of this was going on in the other Fedor thread. I will respect the vets all day long but it's hard to do when they are disrespecting you. That's why I just quit posting on that other thread. I don't understand why people get so upset over something so meaningless. You should be able to state your opinion and not have someone jump on you and disrespect you. Respect should go both ways.

Having said that I think most people in the sport would agree that pound for pound is between GSP and Anderson Silva.

 

[dragonfire101]

Alot of this was going on in the other Fedor thread. I will respect the vets all day long but it's hard to do when they are disrespecting you. That's why I just quit posting on that other thread. I don't understand why people get so upset over something so meaningless. You should be able to state your opinion and not have someone jump on you and disrespect you. Respect should go both ways.

Having said that I think most people in the sport would agree that pound for pound is between GSP and Anderson Silva.

At least 1 more title defenses and I would say GSP

Silva has 4 losses and 3 of them to me were not that great of fighters although he has more wins than GSP. GSP lost to Serra was a lucky fluke and first to Hughes, he was not mentally prepared, although that is part of fighting to be prepared in all ways.

 

[Designbuilt]

It would be stupid to guarantee him a huge amount of money like 30m up front. Because in this sport just like boxing, anything can happen.

What if he gets ko'd badly in the first two fights? First against Lesnar, then against anyone else as a "warmup" to be back in shape for the rematch. Won't say it would happen, but it could, then will he still be worth 30 mil to the UFC?

 

[JJ-INSANE1]

It would be stupid to guarantee him a huge amount of money like 30m up front. Because in this sport just like boxing, anything can happen.

What if he gets ko'd badly in the first two fights? First against Lesnar, then against anyone else as a "warmup" to be back in shape for the rematch. Won't say it would happen, but it could, then will he still be worth 30 mil to the UFC?

Bro
I dont think it was an up front offer. I understood he would get 5 million for the next 6 fights... per fight win or loose. Dana is an idiot but i dont think he is stupid enough to make a deal like that.... 30 mil up front that is.

 

[JJ-INSANE1]

Alot of this was going on in the other Fedor thread. I will respect the vets all day long but it's hard to do when they are disrespecting you. That's why I just quit posting on that other thread. I don't understand why people get so upset over something so meaningless. You should be able to state your opinion and not have someone jump on you and disrespect you. Respect should go both ways.

Having said that I think most people in the sport would agree that pound for pound is between GSP and Anderson Silva.

Well bro i hope your not referring to me jumping you. I do not recall doing so. If i did anything to piss you off then i apologize.

All i have heard is pound for pound this dude or that dude... GPS ... Silva ... whatever... i know no matter who is the best pound for pound, Fedor would beat them pound for pound.

Your entitled to your opinion, i cant help its wrong

 

[JJ-INSANE1]

I think most people in the sport would agree that pound for pound is between GSP and Anderson Silva.

Not so my friend... not everyone agrees the pound for pound thing... read on..

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/jul/12/can-anyone-beat-man/

"Several believe the fighter with the best chance against Lesnar would be the man many consider to be the top pound-for-pound fighter in the world: Fedor Emelianenko.

Emelianenko has never fought in the UFC, much to the disappointment of fight fans all over the world. Through his career in other organizations such as Pride and Affliction, the submission specialist has defeated Tim Sylvia, Mark Coleman, Mirko Filipovic, Nogueira and Herring."

The Russian heavyweight would be the greatest test to Lesnar's submission defense and, according to White, it's just a matter of time before that fight happens.

"Eventually Fedor is coming to the UFC," White said. "I've done deals with all the best fighters all over the world. We'll end up getting that deal won and it will be Brock vs. Fedor and it will be a huge fight."

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Now back to Brock and his baby ass ways....

From the same article :
That is until Lesnar celebrated his win by screaming at Mir, drenching a nearby camera with spit from his mouthpiece, insulting the event's sponsor, Bud Light, and flipping the bird to the entire sellout crowd.

"Brock went so far over the top tonight, I can't even describe it," White said. "WWE, that's what it was. In a million years, I never would have thought somebody would have done something like that."

Now thats real professional.... yes professional WWE.

God he is such a dick.

 

[ttexas03]

 

[Tyrone]

You were fine bro! Tyrone was being a bit over the top. I also apologze if I came across wrong to anyone. I want to be more involved in the community. It's so easy to come across the wrong way typing. I respect your opinions and the way you lay them out. You definitely have knowledge in this area. Fedor has the track record and experience. Brock has not fought enough to earn his respect yet. Time will tell! I would love to see the fight and experience all the build up that would go along with it. As a sports fan what more could you ask for?

I've been trying to keep a tight lip from here on out...Don't go spewing my name please...I'm not over the top and if you took a little time to get to know me, you'd realize this....I'm not friends with most vets for no reason, Ty

 

[Tyrone]

JJ

I don't know if you're a fan or remember this old shit but here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SXr6aUFP8U&NR=1


I just wanted to ask if snitches were a dying breed...

 

[K1]

I guess there's nothing left to say, until the fight's booked and they're heading down to the cage.....

 

[LATS]

well.. i do believe that fedor knows he has much to lose.. he was offered very good money.. yet came up with unreasonable demands.. he knew dana was not going to promote k1.. that was silly.. fedor has a great marketing team in europe.. he is well known and makes good money.. this is based on his "legend".. so he fights arlovski.. knocks him out.. but any one who saw that fight knew that he was being beaten up and arlovski was the aggressor with fedor backing up.. alovski did a stupid show off move and fedor caught him.. but take that move out and fedor did not know what was going on..

now.. i am not saying he is "scared" of lesner.. i hate lesner.. no talent strong guy.. great physical attributes.. no skill in standup or mma.. that being said, fedor is scared about his "brand".. he makes good money at k1 and europe.. he knows if he comes over here and loses his brand is damaged and so is the rep of k1 as being the best fight org in the world.. if not, he would have done something by now...

 

[warrior4e]

Dana White is a tool and lessner SUCKS

Fedor is the freakin man, lightning fast hands, can take a punch and has nasty ground game. He would take Brock to school. Dana White is a punk ass tool bag, the white Don King and I dont blame him for trying to squeeze every penny out of his cheap ass. Pay the man his money so we can watch Brock bleed like a bitch.

peace

 

[JJ-INSANE1]

I don't know if you're a fan or remember this old shit but here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SXr6aUFP8U&NR=1


I just wanted to ask if snitches were a dying breed...

Damn talk about old school memories. That was back in the day!
Snitches... yeah they are a dying breed, and i have busted more then one in the mouth. I have probably dislodged 11 or more snitchs teeth in my days.