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Feeling T3s

dieselboy

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started t3s monday up to 100mcg but i dont feel anything,

do you get a feeling off t3s at all, i'm wondering whether mine are bunk

currently running 680mg pw sust 100mg tren ace eod 50mg winny ed

+ clen at 100-200mcg depending on how i feel

(dont know if that has any bearing lol)
 
If you take to much you will get a headache and heart palpitations. It takes a couple weeks before it starts burning fat and you shouldn't be feeling to much accept being more hungry.

I on the other hand am prescribed thyroid because i am low. So i don't feel as tired and down when prescribed, this is a different story though.
 
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I would always get hyper-kinetic and super-motivated in the gym. Monster sweats 24/7. I never went past 75 mcg and in hindsight would not have gone past 50 mcg.

I do get a little hot after I eat when on a higher dose.

Dboy what type of affect are you expecting to feel. Between the test, tren, clen and winney any additional feeling from t3 could possibly be mitigated by all those. The clen alone would probably over power any of the superficial affects of the t3.
 
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you might feel it more if you split it up into 3-4 doses throughout the day and took on an empty stomach.

100mcg should be noticible. even at 12.5-25mcg i'd feel a cumulative effect after a few days. it really isn't a "speed" like feeling.... i would sweat when eating, and also always feel as if i was in a state of slight glycogen depletion (sorta flat), and of course pounds would come off.
 
T3 gives me insomnia. thats how i know if mine is legit or not. Its the only side i get from it!
 
I do get a little hot after I eat when on a higher dose.

Dboy what type of affect are you expecting to feel. Between the test, tren, clen and winney any additional feeling from t3 could possibly be mitigated by all those. The clen alone would probably over power any of the superficial affects of the t3.

i think you've hit the nail on the head here mate, i think theres just too much in me to single one thing out

i tried 100mcg of 100% legit pharma this morning got a little warmer is all,

one thing though i could eat a small nation all the time its making dieting extra hard, thanks for the help chaps
 
Anyone read Victor Conte's recent letter about the way they doped? The track athletes would take 50mcg an hour before a meet to increase "quickness" and reduce sluggishness. Anyone notice an acute performance boost from it? I know it make you weaker over time though.
 
for a sprinting CNS boost, provigil or adrafinil is probably a better bet. one sprinter actually got diagnosed as narcoleptic so she could use it.zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

where was the conte letter posted? i'd like to read it.
 
for a sprinting CNS boost, provigil or adrafinil is probably a better bet. one sprinter actually got diagnosed as narcoleptic so she could use it.zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

where was the conte letter posted? i'd like to read it.

Modafinil was actually also in the stack

Victor Conte's letter to Dwain Chambers


Dear Dwain,

Per your request, this letter is to confirm I am willing to assist you in providing UK Sport and others with information that will help them to improve the effectiveness of their anti-doping programs.

The specific details regarding how you were able to circumvent the British and IAAF anti-doping tests for an extended period of time are provided below.

Your performance enhancing drug program included the following seven prohibited substances: THG, testosterone/epitestosterone cream, EPO (Procrit), HGH (Serostim), insulin (Humalog), modafinil (Provigil) and liothryonine, which is a synthetic form of the T3 thyroid hormone (Cytomel).
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THG is a previously undetectable designer steroid nicknamed "the clear." It was primarily used in the off season and was taken two days per week, typically on Mondays and Wednesdays. Generally, these were the two most intense weight-training days of the week. The purpose was to accelerate healing and tissue repair. Thirty units (IU) of the liquid was placed under the tongue during the morning time-frame. THG was used in cycles of "three weeks on and one week off."

Testosterone/epitestosterone cream was also primarily used during the off season. It was rubbed into the skin on the front of the forearm two days per week, typically Tuesdays and Thursdays. The dosage was ½ gram which contained 50mg of testosterone and 2.5mg of epitestosterone (20 to 1 ratio). The purpose was to offset the suppression of endogenous testosterone caused by the use of the THG and to accelerate recovery. The testosterone/epitestosterone cream was also used in cycles of three weeks on and one week off.

EPO was used three days per week during the "corrective phase", which is the first two weeks of a cycle. Typically, it was on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. It was only used once per week during the "maintenance phase" thereafter, typically this was every Wednesday. The dosage was 4,000 IU per injection. The purpose was to increase the red blood cell count and enhance oxygen uptake and utilization. This substance provides a big advantage to sprinters because it enables them to do more track repetitions and obtain a much deeper training load during the off season. EPO becomes undetectable about 72 hours after subcutaneous injection (stomach) and only 24 hours after intravenous injection.

HGH was used three nights per week, typically on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. Each injection would contain 4.5 units of growth hormone. Once again, this substance was used primarily during the off season to help with recovery from very strenuous weight training sessions.

Insulin was used after strenuous weight training sessions during the off season. Three units of Humalog (fast-acting insulin) were injected immediately after the workout sessions together with a powdered drink that contained 30 grams of dextrose, 30 grams of whey protein isolates and 3 grams of creatine. The purpose was to quickly replenish glycogen, resynthesize ATP and promote protein synthesis and muscle growth. Insulin acts as a "shuttle system" in the transport of glucose and branch chain amino acids. There is no test available for insulin at this time.

Modafinil was used as a "wakefulness promoting" agent before competitions. The purpose was to decrease fatigue and enhance mental alertness and reaction time. A 200mg tablet was consumed one hour before competition.

Liothryonine was used help accelerate the basic metabolic rate before competitions. The purpose was to reduce sluggishness and increase quickness. Two 25mg tablets were taken one hour before competition. There is no test available for liothryonine at this time.


In general terms, explosive strength athletes, such as sprinters, use anabolic steroids, growth hormone, insulin and EPO during the off season. They use these drugs in conjunction with an intense weight training program, which helps to develop a strength base that will serve them throughout the competitive season. Speed work is done just prior to the start of the competitive season.

It is important to understand it is not really necessary for athletes to have access to designer anabolic steroids such as THG. They can simply use fast-acting testosterone (oral as well as creams and gels) and still easily avoid the testers. For example, oral testosterone will clear the system in less than a week and testosterone creams and gels will clear even faster.

Many drug-tested athletes use what I call the "duck and dodge" technique. Several journalists in the UK have recently referred to it as the "duck and dive" technique. This is basically how it works.

First, the athlete repeatedly calls their own cell phone until the message capacity is full. This way the athlete can claim to the testers that they didn't get a message when they finally decide to make themselves available. Secondly, they provide incorrect information on their whereabouts form. They say they are going to one place and then go to another. Thereafter, they start using testosterone, growth hormone and other drugs for a short cycle of two to three weeks.

After the athlete discontinues using the drugs for a few days and they know that they will test clean, they become available and resume training at their regular facility.

Most athletes are tested approximately two times each year on a random out-of -competition basis. If a tester shows up and the athlete is not where they are supposed to be, then the athlete will receive a "missed test". This is the equivalent to receiving "strike one" when up to bat in a baseball game. The current anti-doping rules allow an athlete to have two missed tests in any given eighteen-month period without a penalty or consequence. So, the disadvantage for an athlete having a missed test is that they have one strike against them. The advantage of that missed test is the athlete has now received the benefit of a cycle of steroids. Long story short, an athlete can continue to duck and dive until they have two missed tests, which basically means that they can continue to use drugs until that time.

In summary, it's my opinion that more than fifty percent of the drug tests performed each year should be during the off season or the fourth quarter. This is when the track athletes are duckin' and divin' and using anabolic steroids and other drugs. Let me provide some rather startling information for your consideration. If you check the testing statistics on the USADA website, you will find that the number of out-of-competition drug tests performed during each quarter of 2007 are as follows: in the first quarter there were 1208, second quarter 1295, third quarter 1141 and in the fourth quarter there were only 642.

In late 2003 I advised USADA about the importance of random testing during the fourth quarter of the year. They did initially seem to follow my advice because they increased the number of fourth-quarter tests in 2004, 2005 and 2006.

However, they failed to continue this practice in 2007. Why would USADA decide to perform only 15% of their annual out-of-competition tests during the fourth quarter? Let's not forget that this is the off season before the upcoming summer Olympic Games. This is equivalent to a fisherman knowing that the fish are ready to bite and then consciously deciding that it is time to reel in his line and hook, lean his fishing pole up against a tree and take a nap.

On several occasions, I have provided detailed information to both USADA and WADA in an attempt to help them establish more effective testing policies and procedures.

I certainly have more information that I would like the opportunity to provide to you and UK Sport, but I will leave that for another time.

Hopefully, this information will be helpful and I am available to assist you further upon request.

Yours sincerely,

Victor Conte
 
interesting. provigil is a funny drug. i used to take it for adhd, and the decreased perceived need for sleep def axed any bodybuilding strength benefit. it does completely kill your appetite... for some that may be good.
 

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