first time ghrp-6 use question

[Kranked]

I tried some ghrp-6 for the first time last night. Came in 5mg, and I put in 1ml bac water. I drew 1 tic, 2 iu, for a 100mcg dose. I went to bed about 11, hadnt eaten since about 6:30. About 10 minutes after dosing, laying in bed, I broke into a cold sweat, heart rate elevated, and I felt like I hadnt eaten in days. I'd heard about the hunger, but the hr and cold sweat seemed odd.

any thoughts?

 

[VictorZ06]

Give your body some time to adjust, should be fine.

 

[papapumpsd]

I tried some ghrp-6 for the first time last night. Came in 5mg, and I put in 1ml bac water. I drew 1 tic, 2 iu, for a 1mcg dose. I went to bed about 11, hadnt eaten since about 6:30. About 10 minutes after dosing, laying in bed, I broke into a cold sweat, heart rate elevated, and I felt like I hadnt eaten in days. I'd heard about the hunger, but the hr and cold sweat seemed odd.

any thoughts?

You're using a 1mL slinpin? Also, you say "1mcg dose".....this is incorrect.

 

[Kranked]

You're using a 1mL slinpin? Also, you say "1mcg dose".....this is incorrect.

oops. typing too fast. I corrected it. Yes, it's a 1ml pin, and I meant 100mcg. thanks.

I have some grf(1-29), as well. I'll try the ghrp solo a couple more times before adding in the grf.

 

[papapumpsd]

Cor, FYI, in the future if you go with 0.5mL (1/2CC) pins, you can draw up to the 2nd tick mark for 100mcg. This may be easier to measure.

Or, you can always add more BW when you recon so you draw more volume. So if you add 2mL BW to 5mg, you'd draw (using a 1cc slinpin) to the 2nd tick.

 

[Kranked]

Cor, FYI, in the future if you go with 0.5mL (1/2CC) pins, you can draw up to the 2nd tick mark for 100mcg. This may be easier to measure.

Or, you can always add more BW when you recon so you draw more volume. So if you add 2mL BW to 5mg, you'd draw (using a 1cc slinpin) to the 2nd tick.

I'll definitely get the 1/2cc next time. These 1ml are left over from a previous lr3 run.

Any reason I can't add another ml of BW now?

 

[papapumpsd]

I'll definitely get the 1/2cc next time. These 1ml are left over from a previous lr3 run.

Any reason I can't add another ml of BW now?

The answer is yes and no. It all comes down to how much of a perfectionist you are. There are a couple of ways to deal with this. But adding diluent to an existing concentration can get messy if you're not careful.

Here's the deal: You had 5,000mcg/1,000uL OR 5mg/mL initial concentration.

You administered 100mcg, which, at the original concentration, was 20uL (microliters) of your GHRP-6/BW solution. If this is the only volume you used, then you now have 4,900mcg GHRP-6 and 980uL of BW left in the vial. This equates to a concentration of ~5mg/mL (the concentration doesn't change).

So if the above is correct, you now have a volume <1mL. In fact, you'd have 980uL (or .980mL). The concentration is still 5mg/mL

Option 1: So now you want to dilute your peptide with another 1mL BW. Here's the issue:

4,900mcg/(0.980mL + 1mL) = 4,900mcg/1.980mL = 2,474.7mcg/mL = 2.47mg/mL. Now try working with that concentration...how on Earth will you be able to withdraw another 100mcg from this concentration? Maybe it doesn't matter.....the concentration in the vial is SO close to the original 5mg/mL that it won't matter. In fact, with your 1mL syringe, you'd have to draw to the 2.02 tickmark (4.04IUs). Does it really matter that you'd be off by .02 tickmark? Probably not. But this is assuming the above scenario is correct (you only removed 20uL from the starting volume).

Option 2: If you really have a 4,900mcg/980uL solution and IF you add 980uL (0.980mL) additional BW to that concentration, you'd have 2.5mg/mL solution. You can work with that. Simply draw to the 2nd tick to get 100mcg GHRP-6.

If you want to keep life simple, don't add more BW. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Could I have simply said this instead of go through that mess above? Yes, but I want people to understand, through numbers, what happens when you try to dilute a pre-existing fractional volume at a given concentration. It SEEMS like it'd work straightforward, but it can get tricky and may lead to messier habits.

Hope this helps.

 

[Kranked]

Papa, thanks for crunching the numbers. I understood that the final concentration would be off a little, but was thinking that with only 100mcg gone that it wouldnt amount to much. I left it alone. I'll put 2ml in the next vile.

took another 100mcg last night, at about 11:30, just before bed. Same results. Cold sweat, increased heart rate, and some serious hunger pains. I'm hurtin, cause I haven't slept more than a few hours the last two night. I just cant fall asleep with my heart pounding and that low blood sugar jittery feeling, then I toss and turn all night.

I'm thinking the trick will be to go to bed, and somehow try to wake up a couple hours later. that way I'll fall back asleep before it kicks in, hopefully. Maybe guzzle a large glass of water before falling asleep.

thanks again for the feedback

 

[papapumpsd]

Papa, thanks for crunching the numbers. I understood that the final concentration would be off a little, but was thinking that with only 100mcg gone that it wouldnt amount to much. I left it alone. I'll put 2ml in the next vile.

took another 100mcg last night, at about 11:30, just before bed. Same results. Cold sweat, increased heart rate, and some serious hunger pains. I'm hurtin, cause I haven't slept more than a few hours the last two night. I just cant fall asleep with my heart pounding and that low blood sugar jittery feeling, then I toss and turn all night.

I'm thinking the trick will be to go to bed, and somehow try to wake up a couple hours later. that way I'll fall back asleep before it kicks in, hopefully. Maybe guzzle a large glass of water before falling asleep.

thanks again for the feedback

You can always administer the GHRP, wait 15-30min., then have a high protein meal or shake. I often do that before bed. You might as well give the GH some protein to work with while you sleep.

 

[JohnnieFreeze]

The answer is yes and no. It all comes down to how much of a perfectionist you are. There are a couple of ways to deal with this. But adding diluent to an existing concentration can get messy if you're not careful.

Here's the deal: You had 5,000mcg/1,000uL OR 5mg/mL initial concentration.

You administered 100mcg, which, at the original concentration, was 20uL (microliters) of your GHRP-6/BW solution. If this is the only volume you used, then you now have 4,900mcg GHRP-6 and 980uL of BW left in the vial. This equates to a concentration of ~5mg/mL (the concentration doesn't change).

So if the above is correct, you now have a volume <1mL. In fact, you'd have 980uL (or .980mL). The concentration is still 5mg/mL

Option 1: So now you want to dilute your peptide with another 1mL BW. Here's the issue:

4,900mcg/(0.980mL + 1mL) = 4,900mcg/1.980mL = 2,474.7mcg/mL = 2.47mg/mL. Now try working with that concentration...how on Earth will you be able to withdraw another 100mcg from this concentration? Maybe it doesn't matter.....the concentration in the vial is SO close to the original 5mg/mL that it won't matter. In fact, with your 1mL syringe, you'd have to draw to the 2.02 tickmark (4.04IUs). Does it really matter that you'd be off by .02 tickmark? Probably not. But this is assuming the above scenario is correct (you only removed 20uL from the starting volume).

Option 2: If you really have a 4,900mcg/980uL solution and IF you add 980uL (0.980mL) additional BW to that concentration, you'd have 2.5mg/mL solution. You can work with that. Simply draw to the 2nd tick to get 100mcg GHRP-6.

If you want to keep life simple, don't add more BW. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Could I have simply said this instead of go through that mess above? Yes, but I want people to understand, through numbers, what happens when you try to dilute a pre-existing fractional volume at a given concentration. It SEEMS like it'd work straightforward, but it can get tricky and may lead to messier habits.

Hope this helps.

Excellent post sir!!

 

[papapumpsd]

Excellent post sir!!

Hey Johnnie, you found us!

I can't urge you strongly enough to read Dat's thread from the beginning. The good bros here have asked a wide array of questions that make the thread here vs. the former one at AM quite different.

Let me know if you need a hand with anything bud.