First time NPP - higher than test?

[Kauto_star]

Hey all.

Was going to use some DHB but reviews in my thread the other day were mixed. So looking at NPP instead. Never used NPP previously, and never ran Deca.

I do run finasteride so will probably have to drop it if I want to use NPP but never actually used NPP before (for this reason).

I am thinking 300mg test enan and 400-500mg of NPP.

Has anyone done similar? How did you rate the cycle?

Thank you.

 

[bbxtreme]

Keep your test higher than the NPP and no lower than 1:1 and you’ll have a solid cycle.

NPP is a great compound if you can tolerate it well. I made great progress with it until I didn’t tolerate it anymore.

Much better cycle and more sustainable than DHB.

 

[Kauto_star]

Keep your test higher than the NPP and no lower than 1:1 and you’ll have a solid cycle.

NPP is a great compound if you can tolerate it well. I made great progress with it until I didn’t tolerate it anymore.

Much better cycle and more sustainable than DHB.

Thank you buddy! Out of interest - what sides did you get which made you feel you didn't tolerate it anymore? And at what kind of doses? Thanks.

 

[bbxtreme]

Thank you buddy! Out of interest - what sides did you get which made you feel you didn't tolerate it anymore? And at what kind of doses? Thanks.

I would work up to 600-700mg a week under test which I kept around 1200mg. I ran it off and on for two seasons and the third time we went to run it was the first time I’ve ever felt depressed in my life which is not like me at all. We pulled it and it cleared right up. My E2 and prolactin were perfectly in range so wasn’t that.

Overall nandralone is a very potent compound for building true muscle tissue, but it’s also tough on the body after time.

If I had to suggest it to someone today I would use it as a third compound for total MG dosage under Test/Primo or Test/EQ and not go over 300mg a week with it. One of my favorite cycles from the past was Test/Primo/NPP as it was a very clean look with great strength in the gym.

 

[Goodfella1988]

I would work up to 600-700mg a week under test which I kept around 1200mg. I ran it off and on for two seasons and the third time we went to run it was the first time I’ve ever felt depressed in my life which is not like me at all. We pulled it and it cleared right up. My E2 and prolactin were perfectly in range so wasn’t that.

Overall nandralone is a very potent compound for building true muscle tissue, but it’s also tough on the body after time.

If I had to suggest it to someone today I would use it as a third compound for total MG dosage under Test/Primo or Test/EQ and not go over 300mg a week with it. One of my favorite cycles from the past was Test/Primo/NPP as it was a very clean look with great strength in the gym.

What was your primo dose at along with the test and npp?

 

[bbxtreme]

What was your primo dose at along with the test and npp?

That was a cycle under Milos so unfortunately can’t share on here. But it was much higher than I’d suggest.

You could do something like the following:

600-800mg Test C
400-600mg Primo
200-300mg NPP

Start on the lower ends and work your way up only if needed based on progress. That’s how I’d set it up.

 

[TODouble2]

Keep your test higher than the NPP and no lower than 1:1 and you’ll have a solid cycle.

NPP is a great compound if you can tolerate it well. I made great progress with it until I didn’t tolerate it anymore.

Much better cycle and more sustainable than DHB.

what’s the reasoning behind this? I hear it a lot but not exactly sure why… I’ve always ran test low and other compounds higher, including NPP.

 

[Siggy]

Ran 500mgDeca/200mg Test for 5 months, ran 200mg NPP/500mg Test for 3 months. Gains were good with both, never got deca dick but it sure did fuck with my head. Will probably never do either again.

Still, the people who get the brain sides are probably in the minority. Just try it and see what it does for you.

 

[Tomgrass]

500 test 300 -350 mg npp gonna be great for you

 

[TODouble2]

Ran 500mgDeca/200mg Test for 5 months, ran 200mg NPP/500mg Test for 3 months. Gains were good with both, never got deca dick but it sure did fuck with my head. Will probably never do either again.

Still, the people who get the brain sides are probably in the minority. Just try it and see what it does for you.

I got the brain sides at 600mg NPP. It was very strange. Had me questioning my relationship and thinking emotionally kinda like a woman lol. Hard to explain but it was fucking with my head without question.

 

[bbxtreme]

what’s the reasoning behind this? I hear it a lot but not exactly sure why… I’ve always ran test low and other compounds higher, including NPP.

Read the post below yours from @Siggy - that!

But uncontrolled E2 and you’ll just overall feel like garbage on higher NPP and lower test. Not saying you can’t do it by any means. But our body’s primary hormone is testosterone. I try not to fight biology too much with my cycles. LOL

 

[Alzadosghost]

Shoot for 100mg day npp. A lot fucking better than 100mg EOD. Same with the test if not a bit more. Great lil cycle. If you’re fairly new to this. Cut these doses in half. That will work until it won’t!

 

[Siggy]

I got the brain sides at 600mg NPP. It was very strange. Had me questioning my relationship and thinking emotionally kinda like a woman lol. Hard to explain but it was fucking with my head without question.

Yea, same for me.

 

[TODouble2]

Read the post below yours from @Siggy - that!

But uncontrolled E2 and you’ll just overall feel like garbage on higher NPP and lower test. Not saying you can’t do it by any means. But our body’s primary hormone is testosterone. I try not to fight biology too much with my cycles. LOL

I always felt that theory was overblown, I usually ran just 150mg test resulting in adequate levels and I always knew my estrogen was perfect so I would try not to mess with that, ans I’d add other things in during blasts. but to be honest I don’t have much to compare to. Somewhere along the line i stopped using high test and it’s been a long time so I have no recent comparison.

I’ve done things that I’ve seen people here say is crazy lol. I've run a gram of primo and 150 test also. Can’t remember how libido was though but I do remember looking good on it!

 

[mike21886]

Start low and work up. It’s got a lot of bang for buck. I’ve gotten great results from 4-500mg a week NPP and I’m around 285 lbs.

 

[D2]

I can nvr run NPP higher then test, will be super depressed but there are some like JP who run NPP-only cycles with great effect.

 

[360]

I ran Test 600mg with NPP 300mg and could tolerate it well. As soon as I went above 300mg NPP I started having Deca dick. So I stopped the NPP and kept the Test at 600mg. Within 5 days I started losing my mind. I had the worst claustrophobia, OCD, insomnia, mood swings, and panic attacks ever. This was my first time experiencing any of these things in my life. It lasted for 5 freaking weeks before everything returned to normal. It was like I was withdrawing from the NPP. I had bloodwork done at week 2 of these symptoms and estrogen was high normal (76). I will never touch a 19-nor ever again. I am to scared of the consequences.

 

[kadafi2]

Shoot for 100mg day npp. A lot fucking better than 100mg EOD. Same with the test if not a bit more. Great lil cycle. If you’re fairly new to this. Cut these doses in half. That will work until it won’t!

I thought about the ed dosage, currently as an experiment I take 50 mg npp ed (for me it's already a lot) but too short a time to say anything. I guess not many people use it ed. Wouldn't it be the same if you took 200 mg e2d? What difference did you feel between 100 mg ed and 200 mg e2d?

Of course, if someone has something to say about ed dosage, let them write, I would especially like to know the opinion of @bbxtreme.

 

[madg]

When i was younger

150 test
700-1g primo
300-600 npp

Was my fking go to , i couldnt wait finish cutting to run this

When money was tight i just did eq instead primo

Attached pic of said cycle

 

[b-boy]

Much better cycle and more sustainable than DHB.

YES ^^^