For those of you who never use orals... how do you "kickstart"?

[Landmonster]

There seems to be a trend that I see on here, where veterans eschew orals due to their perceived health risks over injectables. This makes sense I guess.

If that's true, what do you guys use to "kickstart" your long cycles?

• Do you just use only fast-acting injectables for kickstarts, and then switch to long-esters?
• Do you just use only fast-acting injectables for the entire cycle? (If so, do you worry about the risks of pinning too much?)
• Do you just ignore the idea of kickstarting, and use long-esters the whole time?

 

[Gunsmith]

There seems to be a trend that I see on here, where veterans eschew orals due to their perceived health risks over injectables. This makes sense I guess.

If that's true, what do you guys use to "kickstart" your long cycles?

• Do you just use only fast-acting injectables for kickstarts, and then switch to long-esters?
• Do you just use only fast-acting injectables for the entire cycle? (If so, do you worry about the risks of pinning too much?)
• Do you just ignore the idea of kickstarting, and use long-esters the whole time?

#3 , just start and let it happen , I think people make their cycles way more difficult than they need to b

 

[standard donkey]

I just wait around

 

[Knight9]

P A T I E N C E

 

[super_stevecc]

No brainer. Just wait. After a few weeks, it's there anyway

 

[Kaladryn]

I think kickstarting is a bad idea, it is just going to desensitize you to higher doses faster, I like the nice gradual increase of a longer ester, combined with progressive increases.

 

[IronManRep]

Guys say that enenthate takes two weeks to start working but I don't understand that thinking. When you inject, the test is in the blood and begins working immediately.

 

[maldorf]

#3 , just start and let it happen , I think people make their cycles way more difficult than they need to b

yeah, or if youre inpatient you can just "front load" the long ester. I would double the dose of whatever youre taking for the first week and the 2nd week use 1.5X the normal dose. Third week youre using what dose you planned on using. When I used that method I would be feeling the effects by the end of the first week. this is rather aggressive though and not something for beginners. Now I wouldn't do any of this shit.

 

[chinaboy]

Has anyone used used prop the first 2 weeks of a test e cycle. I think that would make sense to kick start a cycle.

 

[2swole79]

Just run your cycle. Gunsmith is right, guys are overthinking this. Cycle, train, eat, rest....repeat