Gallbladder polyp

[MooseKnuckles]

I didn't want to have mine removed but I had real bad gallbladder attack, was extremely sick and the gallstones were causing a blockage so I didn't have a lot of options but if I would of had a choice it would have stayed.

 

[Killer.7]

Makes a lot more sense. You absolutely need to do an MRI. I’d also try to confirm if they did the gallbladder imaging on the last images.

I’d try my best to not have it removed if possible, but docs love removing gallbladders. lol insurance pays good for it.

How are your lipids?

They were kind of high last time I check which was in November 2023

s
Hours After Meal		12		Hours
Triglyceride		0.56		mmol/L
	FASTING: <1.70 mmol/L NON-FASTING: <2.00 mmol/L
Cholesterol	HI	5.59	<5.20	mmol/L
	Total cholesterol and HDL-C used for risk assessment and to calculate non HDL-C.
HDL Cholesterol		1.36	>=1.00	mmol/L
	HDL-C <1.00 mmol/L indicates risk for metabolic syndrome.
Non HDL Cholesterol	HI	4.23	<4.20	mmol/L
	Non HDL-Cholesterol is not affected by the fasting status of the patient. If non-HDL-C >=4.20 mmol/L in primary prevention setting for low risk patients (FRS 5-9.9%) or intermediate risk patients (FRS 10-20%), consider therapy. Therapy also suggested in low risk patients (FRS <10%) with non-HDL-C >=5.8 mmol/L.
LDL Cholesterol	HI	4.01	<3.50	mmol/L
	If LDL-C >=3.50 mmol/L in primary prevention setting for low risk patients (FRS 5-9.9%) or intermediate risk patients (FRS 10-20%), consider therapy. Therapy also suggested in low risk patients (FRS <10%) with LDL-C >4.99 mmol/L. LDL-C is calculated using the NIH equation. For additional LDL-C and non-HDL-C thresholds based on risk stratification, refer to 2021 CCS Guidelines. Can J Cardiol. 2021;37(8):1129-1150.
Cholesterol/HDL Ratio		4.1
	Cholesterol/HDL-C is not included in the 2021 CCS guideline as a lipid initiation or treatment target but is recognized as an indicator of high CVD risk at Cholesterol/HDL-C ratio >6.0

 

[heavyhitter]

Makes a lot more sense. You absolutely need to do an MRI. I’d also try to confirm if they did the gallbladder imaging on the last images.

I’d try my best to not have it removed if possible, but docs love removing gallbladders. lol insurance pays good for it.

How are your lipids?

A hida scan might be in order to test gall bladder function

 

[bbxtreme]

They were kind of high last time I check which was in November 2023

s
Hours After Meal		12		Hours
Triglyceride		0.56		mmol/L
	FASTING: <1.70 mmol/L NON-FASTING: <2.00 mmol/L
Cholesterol	HI	5.59	<5.20	mmol/L
	Total cholesterol and HDL-C used for risk assessment and to calculate non HDL-C.
HDL Cholesterol		1.36	>=1.00	mmol/L
	HDL-C <1.00 mmol/L indicates risk for metabolic syndrome.
Non HDL Cholesterol	HI	4.23	<4.20	mmol/L
	Non HDL-Cholesterol is not affected by the fasting status of the patient. If non-HDL-C >=4.20 mmol/L in primary prevention setting for low risk patients (FRS 5-9.9%) or intermediate risk patients (FRS 10-20%), consider therapy. Therapy also suggested in low risk patients (FRS <10%) with non-HDL-C >=5.8 mmol/L.
LDL Cholesterol	HI	4.01	<3.50	mmol/L
	If LDL-C >=3.50 mmol/L in primary prevention setting for low risk patients (FRS 5-9.9%) or intermediate risk patients (FRS 10-20%), consider therapy. Therapy also suggested in low risk patients (FRS <10%) with LDL-C >4.99 mmol/L. LDL-C is calculated using the NIH equation. For additional LDL-C and non-HDL-C thresholds based on risk stratification, refer to 2021 CCS Guidelines. Can J Cardiol. 2021;37(8):1129-1150.
Cholesterol/HDL Ratio		4.1
	Cholesterol/HDL-C is not included in the 2021 CCS guideline as a lipid initiation or treatment target but is recognized as an indicator of high CVD risk at Cholesterol/HDL-C ratio >6.0

Not terrible. I’d still add in the items I suggested as I believe their staples for most guys on gear or just general health.

 

[Killer.7]

Not terrible. I’d still add in the items I suggested as I believe their staples for most guys on gear or just general health.

Yea ive cleaned up my diet since then and reduced my red meat big time. I am not on cycle, currently running 140mgs of test per week from my endo.

I drink apple cider vin with my water daily. You recommend I add citrus bergamot? What do these do, never heard of them "Serrapeptase, protease, and nattokinase taken on an empty stomach would be something I’d personally do."

I was actually planning on doing a nice cutting cycle this spring but I scared the shit out myself with this finding so I think im going to put that off unfortunately.

 

[bbxtreme]

Yea ive cleaned up my diet since then and reduced my red meat big time. I am not on cycle, currently running 140mgs of test per week from my endo.

I drink apple cider vin with my water daily. You recommend I add citrus bergamot? What do these do, never heard of them "Serrapeptase, protease, and nattokinase taken on an empty stomach would be something I’d personally do."

I was actually planning on doing a nice cutting cycle this spring but I scared the shit out myself with this finding so I think im going to put that off unfortunately.

I wouldn’t panic. I would just take it a step at a time, see what the testing reveals and do NOT let a doctor “fear” you into making brash decisions.

I’d add add citrus bergamot. I like Naemoi brand. You can get it on Amazon. I have no affiliation. It’s just Italian sourced and has olive leaf in it so is very effective.

The other items are proteolytic enzymes. In layman’s terms- taken with food they break down protein. Taken on an empty stomach they break down excess proteins in the body, regulate inflammation and mucus. Doctors Best makes a combo product “Natto/Serra” that you can get on Amazon too. 2-3 on an empty stomach first thing AM is what I would suggest.

 

[Killer.7]

I wouldn’t panic. I would just take it a step at a time, see what the testing reveals and do NOT let a doctor “fear” you into making brash decisions.

I’d add add citrus bergamot. I like Naemoi brand. You can get it on Amazon. I have no affiliation. It’s just Italian sourced and has olive leaf in it so is very effective.

The other items are proteolytic enzymes. In layman’s terms- taken with food they break down protein. Taken on an empty stomach they break down excess proteins in the body, regulate inflammation and mucus. Doctors Best makes a combo product “Natto/Serra” that you can get on Amazon too. 2-3 on an empty stomach first thing AM is what I would suggest.

did some more bloods. What is elevated biliruben indicative of? I it has been elevated like this once before. Cholesterol still elevated, need to take action.

riglyceride		0.58		mmol/L
	FASTING: <1.70 mmol/L NON-FASTING: <2.00 mmol/L
Cholesterol	HI	5.88	<5.20	mmol/L
	Total cholesterol and HDL-C used for risk assessment and to calculate non HDL-C.
HDL Cholesterol		1.39	>=1.00	mmol/L
	HDL-C <1.00 mmol/L indicates risk for metabolic syndrome.
Non HDL Cholesterol	HI	4.49	<4.20	mmol/L
	Non HDL-Cholesterol is not affected by the fasting status of the patient. If non-HDL-C >=4.20 mmol/L in primary prevention setting for low risk patients (FRS 5-9.9%) or intermediate risk patients (FRS 10-20%), consider therapy. Therapy also suggested in low risk patients (FRS <10%) with non-HDL-C >=5.8 mmol/L.
LDL Cholesterol	HI	4.27	<3.50	mmol/L
	If LDL-C >=3.50 mmol/L in primary prevention setting for low risk patients (FRS 5-9.9%) or intermediate risk patients (FRS 10-20%), consider therapy. Therapy also suggested in low risk patients (FRS <10%) with LDL-C >4.99 mmol/L. LDL-C is calculated using the NIH equation. For additional LDL-C and non-HDL-C thresholds based on risk stratification, refer to 2021 CCS Guidelines. Can J Cardiol. 2021;37(8):1129-1150.
Cholesterol/HDL Ratio		4.2
	Cholesterol/HDL-C is not included in the 2021 CCS guideline as a lipid initiation or treatment target but is recognized as an indicator of high CVD risk at Cholesterol/HDL-C ratio >6.0
Apolipoprotein B	HI	1.10	<1.05	g/L

Urate		251	230-480	umol/L
Albumin		46	35-52	g/L
Bilirubin Total	HI	27	<20	umol/L
Alkaline Phosphatase		45	40-129	U/L
Gamma Glutamyl Transferase		22	<65	U/L
Alanine Aminotransferase		48	<50	U/L

 

[bbxtreme]

did some more bloods. What is elevated biliruben indicative of? I it has been elevated like this once before. Cholesterol still elevated, need to take action.

riglyceride		0.58		mmol/L
	FASTING: <1.70 mmol/L NON-FASTING: <2.00 mmol/L
Cholesterol	HI	5.88	<5.20	mmol/L
	Total cholesterol and HDL-C used for risk assessment and to calculate non HDL-C.
HDL Cholesterol		1.39	>=1.00	mmol/L
	HDL-C <1.00 mmol/L indicates risk for metabolic syndrome.
Non HDL Cholesterol	HI	4.49	<4.20	mmol/L
	Non HDL-Cholesterol is not affected by the fasting status of the patient. If non-HDL-C >=4.20 mmol/L in primary prevention setting for low risk patients (FRS 5-9.9%) or intermediate risk patients (FRS 10-20%), consider therapy. Therapy also suggested in low risk patients (FRS <10%) with non-HDL-C >=5.8 mmol/L.
LDL Cholesterol	HI	4.27	<3.50	mmol/L
	If LDL-C >=3.50 mmol/L in primary prevention setting for low risk patients (FRS 5-9.9%) or intermediate risk patients (FRS 10-20%), consider therapy. Therapy also suggested in low risk patients (FRS <10%) with LDL-C >4.99 mmol/L. LDL-C is calculated using the NIH equation. For additional LDL-C and non-HDL-C thresholds based on risk stratification, refer to 2021 CCS Guidelines. Can J Cardiol. 2021;37(8):1129-1150.
Cholesterol/HDL Ratio		4.2
	Cholesterol/HDL-C is not included in the 2021 CCS guideline as a lipid initiation or treatment target but is recognized as an indicator of high CVD risk at Cholesterol/HDL-C ratio >6.0
Apolipoprotein B	HI	1.10	<1.05	g/L

Urate		251	230-480	umol/L
Albumin		46	35-52	g/L
Bilirubin Total	HI	27	<20	umol/L
Alkaline Phosphatase		45	40-129	U/L
Gamma Glutamyl Transferase		22	<65	U/L
Alanine Aminotransferase		48	<50	U/L

Generally it means your liver is over stressed. Are you running any orals or tren? Or have you in the last month?

They’re only mildly elevated, but regardless shouldn’t be so something is stressing the liver- gear, drinking etc. it usually takes a decent period of stress before bilirubin increases.

 

[Killer.7]

Generally it means your liver is over stressed. Are you running any orals or tren? Or have you in the last month?

They’re only mildly elevated, but regardless shouldn’t be so something is stressing the liver- gear, drinking etc. it usually takes a decent period of stress before bilirubin increases.

No tren no orals. Only ephedrine.

 

[fisther69]

I had one of those..the first question the surgeon ask me was “how long have you been intermittent fasting?”

Turns out is was a cholesterol deposit caused by intermittent fasting that killed my gallbladder..had the gallbladder removed like 10 years ago.

 

[Killer.7]

I had one of those..the first question the surgeon ask me was “how long have you been intermittent fasting?”

Turns out is was a cholesterol deposit caused by intermittent fasting that killed my gallbladder..had the gallbladder removed like 10 years ago.

What the hell !

Why did the IF cause this? Was your cholesterol high?

I really dont do IF that often.

 

[Killer.7]

I had one of those..the first question the surgeon ask me was “how long have you been intermittent fasting?”

Turns out is was a cholesterol deposit caused by intermittent fasting that killed my gallbladder..had the gallbladder removed like 10 years ago.

For context I have no gallbladder pains or stones or anything. My stools are perfect and i digest all foods really well.

 

[danieltx]

For context I have no gallbladder pains or stones or anything. My stools are perfect and i digest all foods really well.

Then you probably shouldn't worry.

Guys do more damage to their health worrying and stressing unnecessarily than they realize.

 

[bbxtreme]

No tren no orals. Only ephedrine.

What medications are you on?

I personally still wouldn’t stress as I stated before. The liver and gallbladder are resilient organs that will repair with the right diet and lifestyle generally.

 

[Killer.7]

What medications are you on?

I personally still wouldn’t stress as I stated before. The liver and gallbladder are resilient organs that will repair with the right diet and lifestyle generally.

Trt and compound dessicated thyroid.

 

[bbxtreme]

Trt and compound dessicated thyroid.

It’s rare to find someone not even on one prescription medication these days. I applaud you for that. Wait for the additional imaging and don’t rush into any decisions is my best advice.

People often forget when they have things like this sprung on them that they’ve lived their entire life before that moment feeling and living relatively well. No need to rush to assumptions or extreme procedures as those things can’t be undone.

 

[fisther69]

What the hell !

Why did the IF cause this? Was your cholesterol high?

I really dont do IF that often.

He explained it all to me but that was 10 years ago..I don’t remember at all

 

[Killer.7]

It’s rare to find someone not even on one prescription medication these days. I applaud you for that. Wait for the additional imaging and don’t rush into any decisions is my best advice.

People often forget when they have things like this sprung on them that they’ve lived their entire life before that moment feeling and living relatively well. No need to rush to assumptions or extreme procedures as those things can’t be undone.

Lol ya you’re telling me. I had weird chest pains back in 2021 and got a nuclear stress test done bcuz i was paranoid about a blockage and heart issues. Exposed myself to radiation for nothing.

 

[Turkishexpress]

I had my gallbladder removed about 3 years ago after a series of ER visits which I thought at the time were related to my acid reflux or a stomach virus. For some reason, no one suspected my gallbladder during the first few visits. Some doctors suck. Finally got diagnosed with gallstones and had the gallbladder removed. Adjusting post-surgery was quick and after about a year, I could do a ton of fats with little issue.

 

[Killer.7]

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I had my gallbladder removed about 3 years ago after a series of ER visits which I thought at the time were related to my acid reflux or a stomach virus. For some reason, no one suspected my gallbladder during the first few visits. Some doctors suck. Finally got diagnosed with gallstones and had the gallbladder removed. Adjusting post-surgery was quick and after about a year, I could do a ton of fats with little issue.

thanks for the input.

how did you manage to adjust your lifestyle to accommodate fats? Supping with bile salts and enzymes?