Good luck, evrytime I see something I need the sellers ad states" I bought this for $800, so its a steal at $600" the best way to find things I've found is to ask small gym owners if they have older stuff they don't use anymore or find a gym thats going out of business. Then you can get a better value for your dollar. I,ve also found its easier to buy weights from someone selling a crappy bench with an oylimic weight set and bar and toss the bench. J.R.